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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-08 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3809 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3809 ⌋

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Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
While I remain unconvinced that advocating the allocation government funds for healthier food means I'm judging poor people, I really like the idea of subsidizing fruits and vegetables and other healthy things. I'd like to see something like that, and I appreciate the manner in which you responded.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT
See, this? "advocating the allocation government funds for healthier food" in theory I could get behind. Encouraging the money to go to healthy foods is a fine goal. There are several ways this could be done. Like my city gives good exchanges for food stamps at the public market. (Which is where farmers sell their local produce directly to people at a discount price to the grocery store.) I would love if somehow they managed to make it easier/cheaper for people to go there. I can only go if I can hitch a ride with someone, as I can't justify paying the bus fare and certainly can't walk while carrying all of that, especially given how far away it is. There are other ways to encourage the use of money toward healthy foods too.

What I have an issue with is that you aren't approaching the issue positively. With "how can we help people to make healthier choices." Instead you approached it negatively with "poor people aren't allowed to get anything high in sugar." Being negative about it feels very punitive and judgmental. Plus your criteria is arbitrary, as I really don't see a twinkie being worse than a bag of chips. Which is what I (and presumably others) were bothered by.

I really would love to eat healthy. I had about a year where I had some extra money and was able to do so, and I lost 40 pounds, which was awesome. But then life (and hospital bills and other stuff) happened, and I went back to scrounging for money and eating poorly because it was cheap, and the weight slowly crept back on. I would love if the government came up with a way for me to be able to eat better. I just don't want them controlling what I can and can't eat. And even the idea of that possibly happening bothers me.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I just don't see it as negative, but I respect that you do, and I 100 percent believe fruits, veg, meat and grain should be accessible to everyone somehow. And I also think there should be some kind of encouragement or incentive to choose them over other things. I just haven't figured out how to make it all mesh in a way that pleases everyone.

Re: Things that stick in your craw

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT
I'm not going to go into much, as I feel we might have discussed it all, pretty much, but I wanted to clarify something. When talking about changing people's behavior, "positive" means you are giving them something to hopefully change their behavior, while "negative" means you are taking something away. So if you wanted a child to get good grades, "positive" would be to give them $5 for every A, while "negative" would be to take away their cell phone if they didn't get all As. (There is more to it, but that is a basic overview.) As you were taking about taking away high sugar foods to force people to be healthy, you were advocating a negative solution. I prefer positive methods. If that makes sense?