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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-09 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3810 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3810 ⌋

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Re: Semi-inspired by #9- headcanons/fanon

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't agree with the fanon that Elrond considers Maglor his dad or would call him as such, or that Elrond hates his dad. I also don't agree with the fanon that Elrond considers himself Noldor.
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Re: Semi-inspired by #9- headcanons/fanon

[personal profile] philstar22 2017-06-09 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of agree? I mean, I don't think he hated Maglor. I do think he loved him and that there was a familial relationship there. But he always knew who his father was and why his father left. So I think he could love Maglor without seeing him as his father and that he still loved his father too.

Re: Semi-inspired by #9- headcanons/fanon

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely don't think he hated him (it says "love grew between them as little may be thought" so obviously he doesn't hate him) and I can see him seeing Maglor as family, like a close cousin, but not a substitute for his dad. I mostly see this kind of anti-Earendil/Maglor-as-dad from Feanorian-apologists, who seem incapable of liking something without denigrating someone else.
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Re: Semi-inspired by #9- headcanons/fanon

[personal profile] philstar22 2017-06-09 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I agree. Feanorian apologists bug me. I like the Feanorians. Well, I like Maglor, Maedhros, and Celebrimbor. But all of them were flawed and most of them did horrible things. I think it is possible to like and explore complex characters without excusing all their mistakes. And I don't get being Anti-Earendil. He had to go or Melkor would have won. Then everyone would be dead or worse. I'm sure leaving his family was incredibly hard. But he did it to protect them, to protect everyone. How is that not noble?

Re: Semi-inspired by #9- headcanons/fanon

(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
They're so delusional. I saw a huge wank once where the apologists blamed the First Kinslaying on the Teleri, saying that because the Noldor helped build the Havens out of friendship years ago, the Teleri owed the Noldor the use of their ships. They said the Noldor were justified in attacking them because the Teleri refused. I just O_o.

I've always seen Earendil as being like a soldier who has to leave for war. He is putting the good of his people before his own self-interests (as a leader should). I'm sure he'd love to have stayed with his family. I'm also sure Elrond completely understands.
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Re: Semi-inspired by #9- headcanons/fanon

[personal profile] philstar22 2017-06-10 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly how I think of Earendil, as a soldier, too. And I'm absolutely sure it was intentional considering Tolkien himself was a soldier and much of his war experience shows up in his writings. Not that I always agree with Tolkien on everything, but you have to understand where he's coming from to understand his writing. And in this instance, I do agree with him. Earendil's actions were noble.