[ SECRET POST #3825 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3825 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Not all of Whedon's stuff is bad. In fact, I liked Firefly and Titan A.E.; it's that for some reason the script he wrote for WW seems to hit every stupid faux-feminist cliche pothole on the way. Like yes, WW is badass in it? But it's set up so she's badass for the male gaze, not inherently badass because she's that good.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying it's bad, I said I didn't enjoy it.

I'm just pointing out that the people that OP is talking about do exist, who are using the WW script as "proof" that everything Whedon has ever done sucks. Which is going overboard, even if this particular script in question is, like I said, bad. Which it is.

[(Anonymous)]

Firefly was the worst. Whedon was always being bitchy that Lucasfilm wouldn't let him do a Han Solo movie and tried to prove he could and just proved he couldn't when it got cancelled.

[(Anonymous)]

What does "badass for the male gaze" even mean?

[(Anonymous)]

It means a woman whose fight scenes are only an excuse to show off her figure. It is a common theme in Whedon's works. It is trying to excuse softcore by pretending it is action girl feminism.

NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I think it means that instead of being a badass in a way that women can look up to, Wedon's WW is badass in way that men can get off to.

[(Anonymous)]

My guess? Tight clothing, cleavage, camera shots that pan slowly over boobs/butt/legs, etc. in a way that's not done with men during fight scenes.

Or in the case of WW, distracting the villain with a sexy dance. Can't remember the last time Batman had to do that, unless you count the Batusi!

[(Anonymous)]

I would pay good money to see that.

[(Anonymous)]

Once again, Hark, a Vagrant! delivers:

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=295

[(Anonymous)]

Peter Quill in the first GotG?

[(Anonymous)]

It's when the badass female character's design is based primarily on being attractive straight guys.

It's written "sexy slow pan" up Diana's body in Whedon's script.

It's every video game where the female hero gets to wear armor that covers his vital areas, but the female hero is stuck wearing a chainmail bikini.

It's Lara Croft with her improbable breasts and impractical outfits.

It's every movie "tough chick" who wears black leather so tight that if they were actually in a fight, they wouldn't be able to move well enough to kick the bad guy in the jewels, much less the face.

It's River Tam. Just ... River Tam.