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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-25 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #3826 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3826 ⌋

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Re: Anyone got any tips for adopting a Death of the Author mindset?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about "Death of the Author." The way that I try to think about it is that a text has to be understood, basically, as a text with its own independent existence, that stands on its own terms, and that is distinct from the person who created it. The key question about a text is what the text actually says, not what the person who made it says about it.

But at the same time, all texts exist in a context, and have to be evaluated in that context - the same as any other phenomenon or statement or whatever has to be evaluated in its context. And there are times when, in fact, that contextual element overtakes the text itself, or undermines the text in some way, or to put it more bluntly makes it impossible for you to like the thing. And, to be honest, I think that's mostly okay.

So what I would say to you - frankly - is to take this as an opportunity to maybe reflect a little within yourself, and think about whether all the soi-disant libertarianism and sneering at social justice snowflakes was perhaps not entirely justified or reasonable.
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Re: Anyone got any tips for adopting a Death of the Author mindset?

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-06-25 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I don't remember doing any sneering.

But I agree about the texts intentions being only half the point - I think thats what your getting at - and that those intentions need to come through correctly and be understood correctly for that point the creator was driving at to be fully realised.

Trouble is, now that I'm primed with the knowledge of what the creator meant, how do I fail to see that particular message. I mean, they would have to fuck it up pretty bad for me to not see what they were getting at now that I know that was their intention.

Re: Anyone got any tips for adopting a Death of the Author mindset?

(Anonymous) 2017-06-25 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
But I agree about the texts intentions being only half the point - I think thats what your getting at - and that those intentions need to come through correctly and be understood correctly for that point the creator was driving at to be fully realised.

I would say that a text's intentions are much less than half the point, to be honest. The text itself has to be the central thing.

Now, I mean, in this case, it seems very likely that what the text says and what the creator intended it to say are very close. So it's kind of not a significant distinction in this case, and there's also probably not much you can do about it at that point.