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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-28 06:31 pm

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[personal profile] ketita 2017-06-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. It may be the tone of the interviews, for one, but also the fact that it's supposedly pre-TOS. I'd be more okay with something a little more out-there, perhaps, post-DS9, because like you say, it changed things and it was good.
I really wish they'd stop rehashing pre-TOS, tbh.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-28 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I really wish they'd stop rehashing pre-TOS, tbh.

100% agree.

It feels like people get the idea in their heads that they need to bring back the ~feeling~ of Star Trek as a cultural phenomenon in the late 1960s, when in fact that is a minuscule fraction of actually existing Star Trek.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-28 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, like, I'm excited for Discovery because of the cast, but my preferred Trek is easily the 90s shows, never been much into TOS and dislike ENT.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-29 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is they don't really know why TOS chimed with the 1960s (or TNG in the 1980s) the showrunners don't know how to make Star Trek fit with current American ideals and still keep it Star Trek.
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-06-29 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
^SO MUCH AGREEMENT. I think they don't actually understand Star Trek, really, so all they're left with is the scenery. They're hoping if they make it look like Star Trek and quack like Star Trek it'll be a Star Trek.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-29 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I really wish they'd stop rehashing pre-TOS, tbh.

I totally agree. I lost about half my excitement when I found out it was another pre-TOS show, Why?
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-06-29 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mean it almost feels like if they're not throwing in a Vulcan or something they don't know what to do.
I'm really iffy about this "human raised on Vulcan" thing. I mean, really? We already have Spock for that human-Vulcan crossover.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-29 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
This. If it was set in the same time as TNG/DS9/Voyager or later, I'd be all over it. As it stands now, I'm gonna pass.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-29 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Check out Treklit. There's been amazing stuff going on since the end of DS9; I'm entirely serious when I say the best of the post-DS9 books is leaps and bounds ahead of the best of any Trek to have ever been on screen to me.

Start with the Avatar duology and go from there, I'd say. Or if you want to jump into more recent stuff, go for the Destiny trilogy.
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-06-29 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks :) I'll see if I can get my hands on any of those!

[personal profile] idran 2017-06-29 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Earlier anon poster, but I'm going to do I think my first un-anon comment in F!S, because I love Treklit and I love getting people into it. :D

Some more recommendations of some of what I think are the best series:

Vanguard: TOS DS9-style; series contemporary with TOS, that does really feel like the frontier-life feeling TOS had pretty often, but as a thriller with plenty of political dealings involving conflict between Starfleet, the Klingons, and the Tholians, focused around the classic TOS plot element of a mysterious, ancient, superpowerful race.

Titan: Relatively episodic novel series with heavy ongoing character development and a strong focus on exploration set on the USS Titan post-Nemesis. Strong late-TNG feel.

Starfleet Corps of Engineers: Another episodic series with heavy ongoing character development; series of e-novellas (with most having been collected and published) set post-DS9, focusing on a ship in the SCE, going around troubleshooting various engineering difficulties.

Department of Temporal Investigations: Dragnet with time travel, starring Lucsly and Dulmur of "Trials and Tribble-ations". A little heavy on science, but with no actual technobabble; the author had as part of his goal to make a coherent model of Trek time travel alongside real-life science (with some bends as needed), and he actually managed to succeed. :D

IKS Gorkon: Unfortunately short-lived series focused entirely on a Klingon ship in the post-DS9 era, starring Klag (the second officer from Riker's officer exchange episode in TNG) really digging into Klingon culture and showing some perspectives that never really get seen in the show. (There's an entire subplot in one of the last books set entirely amongst Klingon _farmers_.)
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2017-06-29 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
For me, it being pre-TOS is what makes me wanna just nope out entirely. And it's due to the fact that the TECH just looks so...new and such.

I mean, we're supposed to believe that tech suddenly becomes so...simple and slightly more outdated like what we saw in TOS? It breaks my suspension of disbelief.
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-06-29 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I think if they were going pre-TOS they should have made it look the same. As it is, we get a series that can never be watched chronologically because it would be nonsensical. And if I have to skip one, I'd skip this, not TOS.