[ SECRET POST #3831 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3831 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I hate the "acting experience" bit. How the fuck are people supposed to get experience when they're stuck as extras because they have no experience?

[(Anonymous)]

There's a whole layer of roles between extra and star - supporting cast.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but my point is that if you need "acting experience" to rise through the ranks, how are you supposed to rise at all to supporting cast? It's the same bullshit I see in the job market. "Entry level position, need 10 years experience."

[(Anonymous)]

Because there are a variety of roles before you even hit supporting cast. You do extra work, you do speaking extra work, you do small role work, then character-part work, then minor supporting actor, then regular supporting actor, and then major supporting actor, then you are part of the starring cast, and then if you are very very very lucky you get to be a starring actor. There is a whole spectrum of parts out there for an actor to learn their craft in.

[(Anonymous)]

Nobody should be REQUIRED to go through a process in that order though. If someone can shoot to the top right away, then more power to them.

e_e

[(Anonymous)]

That is why there are regional theatres, and theatre workshops, and small budget film, and so forth. You don't have to break into big budget film from nowhere.

[(Anonymous)]

Found the millennial techbro.

No, learning your trade is a vital part of the process. Especially for actors.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, even for actors this is bullshit, but I hope at least you don't extend this mindset to every profession--surgeons, plumbers, nuclear physicists... then again, if enough people share your views in the US, that helps explain the current president.

[(Anonymous)]

You start small and work your way up, how the fuck do you think you do it? You don't just get handed blockbuster roles. It's stupid. The fact that she did well is aside the point, it's a fluke and it shouldn't have happened.

[(Anonymous)]

And how is anyone supposed to rise if they need an arbitrary amount of experience for any role not extra? That's my point. It reeks of the bullshit in the job market of needing X years of experience for entry level positions.

[(Anonymous)]

it's a fluke and it shouldn't have happened
this is bullshit. plenty of unknowns get cast for main roles and end up doing well in them.
look at harrison ford for han solo, and a whole host of other actors. wtf.

[(Anonymous)]

Harrison Ford already had acting experience before he was cast as Han Solo.

[(Anonymous)]

Not much, and he wasn't even supposed to have the role to begin with.

[(Anonymous)]

Gal had some experience - I know she was in two of the Fast & Furious movies, although I don't know how big her role was. But she wasn't a complete unknown.

[(Anonymous)]

My problem is I actually did not think she did well from an acting standpoint. =/

[philstar22]

Act in smaller roles and in less mainstream projects?

[(Anonymous)]

"Take this unpaid internship--you need EXPERIENCE to get to the top."

"Have a portfolio of past work even if it's completely unrelated and your job shouldn't require a portfolio at all, it allows us to screen the people who are poor out."

"Have five years experience for this entry level retail job that you'll probably never leave because the job market is hell."

[(Anonymous)]

These are not the same thing; for acting work, certainly in film, you get paid. In theatre, you're supposed to get paid, and certainly once you're in an Equity production, you do. I forget the particulars, but if you work a certain number of weeks--it might be 52, actually, on Equity productions with the intent to become an Equity member, you get paid the whole time, and at the end you're a member of the union. There is a process for skipping that and becoming a member, too, though.

[(Anonymous)]

This whole sub-thread is ridiculous. The history of the acting profession is full of people who got lucky breaks. It sucks of you're a talented actor always laboring in obscurity, but that's life. Planet Earth is not a perfect meritocracy. Sure, some very successful actors went to formal acting school, or worked their way up from smaller parts, but there's more than one way to skin a cat, and even those actors got lucky breaks, too, or they wouldn't be as successful. The arts are about talent and skill foremost, not about education, years of experience, and technical knowledge.

Besides, even in other fields where education and experience matters and there is far less expectation of natural talent, logging a certain number of years doesn't necessarilly make you better at your job than someone who has logged somewhat fewer years, and lucky breaks (and things like nepotism) happen all the time.