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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-07-29 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3860 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3860 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Well it's clear they're barely following the source material here. Mia is a supposed to be a bubbly pop star not some edgy emo teen who smokes.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Bubbly pop star, yes, but let's be clear, Misa was an edgy Harajuku goth girl in the original. NO evidence that she smoked pot or whatever, but she was "edgy".

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
kawaii goth-loli is pretty safe in Japan. No more edge than a biscuit

(Anonymous) 2017-07-30 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, she was pretty edgy though. She found a notebook and murdered thousands of people - and loads of them were before she ever met Light. It takes a pretty edgy person to commit murder and flirt with Death Gods.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-30 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
She was the opposite of emo.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
we see it time and again how America ruins anything from overseas creators with their completely empty 'remakes'

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no kidding. Light ALWAYS thought he was morally justified in everything he did. Plus, why the hell have Light narrate this? Let the audience decide if Light is "still a good guy" or not, don't spoon feed it.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
USA, always dumbing down their audiences to single IQ level. that's why you have Trump

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Or they are changing from a long form medium to a short form media. They don't have the time to spread out the story and slowly form it.

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(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
...sweeping generalizations are also to blame.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, you're not exactly wrong on this, but it's still a dickish thing to say.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Am from the US, can confirm. I was actually just talking about this with someone the other day; I can't remember the last time a movie/show/game didn't hold your hand through all the major twists to make absolutely sure everyone got it-- like extensive use of rapid-cut flashbacks to all the dialogue that makes the puzzle pieces fit together, instead of just relying on you having goddamned paid attention. I understand you have to account for your lowest common denominator, but... idk, it's a little insulting to your audience, and I hate that it's where we've gone with things.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2017-07-29 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Omg, right? And you'll still have people online the next day going 'i don't get it!!!'

This is why we have anvils, people.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2017-07-29 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
oh for fuck's sake

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that irked me. No one in history has ever seriously said "We're not the good guys anymore". People generally believe that their morals and values are right, and that they more or less live up to them. Even fascists think they're doing the right thing.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I need this movie to come out already so I can see just how bad it is.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a Death Note fan, but this thing looks like a steaming mess.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-29 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Death Note is just too heavily steeped in Japanese culture and values to ever be properly or accurately adapted into an American series.

Still, I like the guy they got to play L. He's a cutie.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-30 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think they could do it (America certainly has a long media history of vigilantism for Light and super-talented weird geniuses for L), but they'd have to put in a fair bit of work to make it interesting, and they obviously haven't done that here.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-30 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree completely. What's Japanese culture/values about Death Note that wouldn't work in any Western setting? The moral question of killing criminals translates virtually anywhere, and Tokyo is a first-world, relatively Western (yes, it is) urban setting. It'd work just fine in NYC, or Paris, or London.

Like the only thing that seems "Japanese" is the "Shinigami", but "Death God" (or maybe "Grim Reaper") pretty much translates perfectly into an American context. I literally can't think of any other core tenet of Death Note - or frankly, any other major detail - that can't be translated word-for-word to America.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-30 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Everything about Light doesn't fit in America. A brilliant honor student would not be considered "crush worthy" or popular by Amerilard standards.

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(Anonymous) 2017-07-30 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
Spoken like someone who knows nothing about the intricacies of Japanese culture.

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[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-07-31 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
It definitely can be adapted and would serve as in interesting sociological picture. Light picked up the note as he was bored of collectivism centred culture and believed to be outside the machine unlike his peers. All the time he had been convinced he is the one who will change the world for better and in the end it will be worth it. It is a pretty universal story - take a teen who thinks they are different, have a strong sense of justice, believe they are the only ones whobcan change the world as they see the truth. Give them a notebook to kill people and pretty much yeah.

The best way to adapt that would probably be just using the concept as we have a certain image of characters where varations might make then feel too foreign.

(Anonymous) 2017-07-30 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
This adap probably isn't going to help Nat Wolff look any less punchable to me. Jesus, when will we be free of him