[ SECRET POST #518 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #518 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

I cannot get this out of my head (LOL 3:10 LOLLLLL O DRAMA)

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Comments

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

YES, JUST LIKE THE END OF DOOMSDAY.

I dunno. I can understand people who don't like the ship or whatever, but really, so much hate. I feel so alone. CAN'T I SHIP DOCTOR/ROSE AND STILL LIKE DONNA AND MARTHA? Is that not allowed? Oh fandom, so confusing.

Then again I'm a blasphemer for only having seen one of the Old Who serials anyway. Oops.

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I don't understand why we aren't allowed to 'ship D/R, and still like the other two, either. I mean ... I have NOTHING against Martha or Donna. At all. I love them. I just personally think that the Doctor and Rose were/are IN LOVE. I'm not trying to convince anyone or be a freak about it, it's just what I think. Don't see why that's so damned WRONG.

Yes, this fandom is confusing, you are so right.

doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Haha seriously. I liked Martha, she was pretty bamf, I just wasn't really digging the unrequited Martha/Doctor thing, and Donna's fine by me. It just happens that I like Rose, too, and I thought her relationship with both Nine and Ten was adorable.

I'm not trying to convince anyone or be a freak about it, it's just what I think. Don't see why that's so damned WRONG. Hahaha seriously. I don't care what anyone else ships, good for them, I'm not looking for ship wars. I just get kind of offended whenever I stumble across a comment that implies I am SCOURGE OF THE EARTH for liking a pairing that the show wanted me to like.

Haha honestly, it's the reason I'm not really in the Doctor Who fandom, beyond stealing pretty icons. A friend from the Harry Potter fandom told me in a twilight community that the Doctor Who fandom was crazy, so I'm assuming it probably is... and for once I kind of want to fangirl in peace without dealing with shipwars and crazy actor!hate or character!hate or casting!hate or wank in general.

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

I pretty much loved Rose from the get-go. It was SHOCKING to me to see all the hate (even though I really shouldn't have been shocked. I should know better by now) for her. I thought she was an awesome character, very real, not this perfect, bad-ass, butt-kicking girl, just a normal young woman. And it was nice to see that.

Yeah, I could care less what people want to 'ship. Really, it doesn't effect me at all. And 'ship wars are BEYOND ridiculous. I mean, really. What is the damn point? To tell everyone that "my 'ship is better than yours" and then list off every nasty thing you possibly can think to say about one or both of the members of said ship? Yeah, doesn't sound like fun to me. But that said, I do get a bit offended when someone is telling me how "stupid" I am for liking a certain pairing. Especially when it's one like Doctor/Rose, which was so BLATANT that there was no way I was going to deny it was canon.

I have no idea about the majority of the fandom, since I tend to just stick to one little corner of it, and as far as I can tell, it's pretty sane. I just have no desire to venture out and deal with the wank and hate that is so rampant in just about EVERY SINGLE FANDOM out there. No thanks. :p

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[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

I don't really understand most of the character hate that I've seen. I liked how Rose was so very human, young and resourceful enough without being super brilliant and not infallible.

Hahaha shipwars make me laugh. No one's going to convince anyone, so there's really not any point arguing. I can handle reasoned debates, but reasoned debates when it comes to fandom usually degenerate into obscure personal attacks.

Yeah, I don't know, I do hang out in a sane, wankless corner of the HP fandom (it does exist!) but I do know there are lots of crazies out there, so who knows, lol. In genera I try to steer away from wank -- I say "in general" beause I find Twilight wank hilarious -- but when it comes to Doctor Who I don't have any idea where to even start.

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Well, if you like Doctor/Rose, time_and_chips is a really good starting point. Everyone there is really nice so far, and there are a ton of good links in the user info.

And yes, Twilight wank is probably the most hilarious thing ever -- but I only say that because I'm not seriously attached to any of the characters. ;)

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Hmmmm I'll have to take a look, thanks. =)

Yeah that's why I'm all for it, too, hahaha. I don't really care about... anyone involved in Twilight... so poking fun at it and watching the fandom explode over OMG EDWARD VS JACOB!!! and the Robert Pattinson casting announcement is good times for me.

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[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Ah, hell, I think Robert Pattinson is about the BEST thing about Twilight. He's pretty! ;) But yeah, other than that ... psssh, I don't care.

I did actually get attached to characters in Doctor Who, though, which is why I guess I defend what I like a little bit more. Sue me, I like Rose, and I think she and the Doctor are adorable TOGETHER. OMG I must be killed. :p

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[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Haha RPattz is definitely the reason I'm in the Twilight fandom at all; I saw the epic casting announcement at ontd and it was so hilarious I ended up getting dragged in. Had they cast someone less hilarious (ie not Cedric Diggory) I probably would've forgotten the books existed.

Same, I'm attached to them just as I'm attached to most of the characters in HP, so I avoid wank in those areas because they hurt my soul a little more, haha.

AND OBVIOUSLY. Because obviously we are everything wrong with the New Who and the generation and so on and so forth etc.

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Amen to the soul-hurting! I mean, I know they're fictional characters, but does it REALLY do anybody any good to put them down all the damn time? I mean ... what exactly are people accomplishing by calling Rose (or Martha, or Donna, or whoever) all these horrible names that they seem to pull out of nowhere? NONE OF THE GIRLS ARE PERFECT. THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF IT ALL. The Doctor doesn't hate any of them, so why the hell should WE? Geez, people.

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[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Haha wow it definitely took me way too long to realize there was a giant 9 in your icon.

Yeah, I don't know. I can understand disliking a fictional character and I can even understand mocking that character when given the opportunity, because I have a surprising amount of disdain for Bella Swan, but... yeah, I don't get it. And I get protective of the characters I like, lol.

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

LOL My icon foils another! Success! Or something. I don't even know any more.

Yeah, everyone seems to have disdain for Bella. I'm just kinda "meh" on the whole issue. If I cared more about the characters, I'd probably form an opinion, but as such ... I just can't be fussed to worry about it too much. LOL Lazy fangirling!

I get protective of well-liked characters, too, though. But I try not to argue too much with people who don't agree. Friendly debates are all well and good, but name-slinging and nastiness are not my idea of a good time.

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Haha I was just kinda like "oh it's a little darker in some spots.... WHOA THAT'S A NINE! HAA I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!"

Bella... embodies many character traits I dislike, so when they're all smack-dab in one place it definitely unleashes some disdain. Plus, I don't know, it just makes the Twilight lulz experience more fun, or something. I don't really care about any of the characters in Twilight too much.

And yeah. With stories/characters/whatever that i actually care about (ie Harry Potter, Doctor Who) I avoid the arguments. With something I don't really care about so much -- like Twilight -- I'm all for sitting back and watching the wank happen.

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[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

OMG Is that a Jim/Pam icon? You are seriously my new favorite person! Okay, that's it, friending you. :D

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

It certainly is! Hahaha awesome, I'll add you back.

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[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Yay! New friends are win. Especially when they like awesome things like Doctor Who and The Office. And Twilight wank! :D

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Haha YESS, THREE OF MY BIGGEST LOVES.

Also, our shippy layouts win. Hahahaha.

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Oh, mine too. I spend waaaaay too much time flailing about The Office. Very sad that we have to wait till September for anything new! :p

And, yes, our layouts rock! Yours is really pretty, I really love the kind of lacy-looking background you have (and the header is pretty pretty too). I just found mine tonight, so I'm still basking in the glow of it's newness. (And I obviously have a total soft spot for Nine/Rose. Can't help it, LOVE them. Love him, even though Ten is also made of awesome.)

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

The Office was the first television show I got into, trufax. I didn't watch TV for like... ten years or something, then I got interested in The Office so I started watching season 4 (while re-watching all previous seasons online), and then The Office got me into Scrubs because Scrubs comes on after The Office, and then "giving in" to TV for The Office made way for trying out Doctor Who. Which, admittedly, I never would have done if a friend hadn't linked me to Blink, lol.

Hahah I'm a little bit in love with my layout too, even though I'm not personally responsible for any of it. (I am graphically inept, and my knowledge of CSS is shaky at best.) And I love Nine! He doesn't really get enough love, I guess because he was only around for so short. I have a stupid amount of love for Ten/David Tennant, so I can't complain too much, but I did really like Nine's sarcasm, deadpanning and seriousness. He was especially awesome in Father's Day (or maybe I'm just saying that because Father's Day is the episode I most recently rewatched... but still.) I wish I had room for some Nine icons .... and some Dwangela icons, and some Donna icons, and some Martha icons. Haha.

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[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Yeah, The Office is pretty much the ONLY show I HAVE to watch religiously (well, now along with Doctor Who, but I'm REALLY new to the Who fandom). But I got completely hooked on The Office, and am totally happy about it. FUNNIEST SHOW EVER. :D

Yeah, I didn't make my layout either. Totally ganked it from someone who actually knows what they're doing, because I sure don't. lol It IS very sad that Nine doesn't get more love. I mean, I adore David Tennant. Love him to DEATH (or you know, a normal, healthy amount), but there was just something about Chris Eccleston and Nine that really drew me in. And I love his interactions with Rose. My biggest fangirly moment to date came at the end of the first series, with The Kiss. Man, I freaked the hell out (in a good way). :D

I need about another hundred icons in order to cover everything that I want an icon for. But don't see that happening any time soon, sadly. lol

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

I'm pretty much never able to watch the shows I like on television (because on Thursdays my tv was always occupied, and Doctor Who doesn't air here) so I am used to the internet, but I'm rabid about trying ot watch the episodes ASAP. And I'm pretty new, too, actually; I only started watching... hm, a month ago? Maybe a month and a half.

Yeah I just added the banner to my layout, and changed the text. Haha.

Haha, The Kiss. I don't really know what my most fangirly moment was, spoilers have deprived me of most of them. When I started watching season one, the site I was using had a big "Rose Tyler returns!" thing at the top, so even though I knew beforehand that she left at the end of s2, I also knew beforehand that she was coming back, so ... yeah, no real surprises there. I do remember thinking "say it, say it, say it!" throughout the entire beach scene in Doomsday, getting all excited when Rose choked it out and then getting all disappointed when Ten didn't get a chance. And I flailed when Rose appeared on the Tardis screen in the Sontaran episode, because it was her first reappearance that I hadn't already been spoiled for.

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[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

I actually JUST started watching Doctor Who about a week or so ago. I still haven't made it all the way through season 3.

Oh, I was spoiled as all hell for pretty much everything concerning season 2 onward, and I still bawled and bawled at the end of Doomsday. I don't think I've ever been that upset about ANYTHING EVER. I felt like a total dumbass too, because I was like, tearing up a box of Kleenex as I watched the stupid thing. And then I cried for a good hour after it was all over.

Re: doomsday icons ftw

[http://users.livejournal.com/_thirty2flavors/]

Oops, I'll stfu then, lol. But wow, even newer than me, that's a first. Heeeee.

I think I may be possibly the only Doctor/Rose shipper in the world who didn't cry during Doomsday... I don't even know why. I think in general I just don't cry at television shows very often -- I'd say never but there was an episode of Scrubs that got me to tear up once. ...Go figure.

Ohhh, it's so sad though. Billie Piper can cry like nobody's business, lol. And of course I pretty much just wanted to give the Doctor a giant bearhug the whole time.

(Also, dunno if you're into fanmixes or what kind of music you listen to, but I am totally in love with this mix (http://community.livejournal.com/lilyrose_icons/24243.html?page=3#comments) and haven't really had anyone to flail over it with. I particularly recommend Ghosts and Boats & Birds.)

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[longlostblue.livejournal.com]

I thought she was an awesome character, very real, not this perfect, bad-ass, butt-kicking girl, just a normal young woman. And it was nice to see that.

That's exactly it. I loved how she made mistakes and couldn't always do everything perfectly, but she always tried hard and did her best to do what needed to be done.

People complain about Mary-Sue type characters, but when we get a realistic individual, they just turn around and complain about her flaws. What can you do, eh?

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[night-is-fallen.livejournal.com]

Exactly! It's like, people are tired of seeing the "perfect" characters, and yet, when they're given someone who is so clearly NOT perfect, they complain about everything that's wrong with her.

I guess I don't understand the need to hate on characters, period. If I don't like a character, I just don't spend too much time thinking about it. I don't feel the need to go around announcing that "OMG I HATE SO-AND-SO AND HOPE THEY DIE!" I'd rather focus on the things I DO like. *shrugs* But I might just be weird. ;)