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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-26 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3888 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3888 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I partially agree with you and partially don't, OP.

I don't agree that age is irrelevant, if that's what you're arguing. I'm honestly pretty ok with enjoying smutty scenes about a 17 yo and, say, a 25 yo, presuming the 25 yo isn't using their age, knowledge, and relative power to pressure or coerce the 17 yo.

And I can respect that not everyone's "line" on this is the same. IIRC, in the UK age of consent is 16? To me that's a bit young, but I wouldn't expect a person from the UK to just automatically think 16 was wrong, even though their legal system says it's fine.

OTOH, up until 2008 the age of consent in Canada was 14! (I'm a bit disgusted with my country rn, and I usually feel pretty good about Canada). That, to me, seems way too young and IMO other Canadians ought to feel the same even though up until 2008 the law said it was ok. Point being: I don't think we can reasonably say "younger than this is too young, and older than that is old enough, period." It's more complex than that.

However, I do agree more generally that there are a lot of people in fandom rn who want everyone to be totally fine with their hebephilic fantasies, and that's messed up. Like no, I'm not okay with your hebephilic fantasies, I'd feel bad about it if I were ok with them, and I'd rather not associate with you in fandom. I'm not going to try to doxx you or spam you over and over with messages telling you to kill yourself. That's fucked up and wrong. I just don't want to associate with you, and if there were an "unlike" button for your fanfic, I'd push it.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
You're giving the troll op too much credit.
What is the point of mentioning hebephilia in your argument?

If you have a problem with teens being sexual then just admit it you dont need a special "word" to describe it.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
If you have a problem with teens being sexual then just admit it you dont need a special "word" to describe it.

DA but you understand that "hebephilia" means an attraction felt by an adult to adolescent kids from the age of 11 to 14, right? Having a problem with hebephilia, or hebephilic fanworks, doesn't suggest in any way that AYRT "has a problem with teens being sexual" - just that they have a problem with smut that depicts sex between an adult and an 11-to-14 year old.

I'm quite with them on that one.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Canadian here - wanna point out that that was not universal. Anal sex required 16 yo, and if a person over 18 was a teacher or some other adult who could exert significant coercive power over the teenager, the fact that 14 was the a.o.c. was not a legal defence to a charge of sexual assault.