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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-10 05:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #522 ]


⌈ Secret Post #522 ⌋

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[identity profile] mekkio.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
168. I've watched the original movies. I love the original movies. And I hated this movie with a passion.

It was too over the top. And the characters were not themselves.

Have you seen Raiders? In that movie Indiana would have never survived a nuclear blast by hiding in a fridge. This was a professor who routinely got his ass kicked by just about everyone.

He wasn't superman. He was Doctor Jones. (Which ticked me off that in the new movie no one called him, "Doctor Jones".)

In Raiders, Indie had to work hard to find the Ark. He had to travel all over, dig up clues, read through books, explore ruins. In the new film, Mutt pops up and says, you have to go South America. And by sheer luck Mutt's story happens to coincide with the Crystal skull.

Where's my brainy Indiana? The one I had a huge teacher crush on in Raiders? The one that made want to explore ruins?

Which leads us to the alien factor. The rest of the Indiana Jones movies had to deal with theology myths that go well with Jones' field of study. Not rather new and unfounded rumors spread by some people, usually non-academic people, who will tells you that Roswell actually happened and believe that the Nazca Lines were laid down for aliens! You can't study this. There are no Pre-Columbian myths that back this up. This pulp fiction nonsense.

The story of the Ark is in the Bible and we have two thousand years of myths for the Grail and even more for the Hindu gods. And there is art, songs, written tales, oral stories and artifacts dealing with these myths that are interwoven in human collective. Again, this is Jones' field of study.

Once more, aliens don't follow this pattern. That's why I think people had a hard time swallowing this. Funny thing is, if the crystal skull had actually belong to a Peruvian god, I don't think people would have been so upset because it would have followed the Indiana Jones movie pattern of the ancients interacting with gods. Not aliens. Gods.


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[identity profile] dwinghy.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with all of this-- though truthfully the aliens didn't bother me so much as the fact that it was just a bad, bad, bad movie and the "villains" weren't scary or threatening at all. In fact at no point during this film did I ever feel like Indy or his friends were in real danger. It's not the suspension of disbelief I had trouble with, it's just... bad. A bad movie made by people who should know better.

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[identity profile] ketita.livejournal.com 2008-06-11 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. I think you really managed to pinpoint what about the movie bothered me (though I didn't hate this movie quite so much).
Thanks :)

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[identity profile] ladykerradine.livejournal.com 2008-06-12 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! That's exactly what I've been trying to explain to people. Had George Lucas gone the Peruvian God route, I would have been a bit more okay with this movie than I was. I just feel like aliens don't belong in the Indiana Jones universe...at least not as something he would give credit to.

Of course, that won't fix the fact George screwed up his own canon at least twice in the movie or that Marion was acting like she had been taking Valium for the last 18 years.

But that's a rant for another time.