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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-27 04:13 pm

[ SECRET POST 3889 ]


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Re: Things you've wondered but can't ask without sounding like a jerk or an idiot

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Is being pro-same sex marriage but anti-polygamy hypocritical?

It's usually used as an argument against sex-same marriage. That's not how I mean it.

Re: Things you've wondered but can't ask without sounding like a jerk or an idiot

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Legally? Polygamy is a whole can of worms that is harder to figure out than marriages between any two people.

Re: Things you've wondered but can't ask without sounding like a jerk or an idiot

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I would say it depends on the reasons why you're anti-polygamy, and whether you mean only polygamy as in one husband and many wives, or all polyamory relationships in general

Re: Things you've wondered but can't ask without sounding like a jerk or an idiot

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Also whether you're against them morally, or against them legally.

Re: Things you've wondered but can't ask without sounding like a jerk or an idiot

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think ethically speaking, if you claim to respect same-sex marriage then you should be open to respecting the relationships of all consenting adults, including polygamy/polyamory.

But legally speaking, polygamy is a lot more difficult. Even putting aside the almost inherent sexism of one man + many wives, and equating any gender combination, what's the limit? What exactly are the benefits of marrying twenty-three people if you choose? If you divorce, how could that be done? Can I just marry all my friends if I want, even if we're not having sex? Do I get visas if they are international people?

It's extremely confusing. It might be that in the future, we have to examine what use marriage is, or if it should be redefined to some kind of "adoption" concept that could include multiple people, even platonic friends. But I don't think that'll be an easy thing to figure out.

Re: Things you've wondered but can't ask without sounding like a jerk or an idiot

(Anonymous) 2017-08-27 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm pro-same sex marriage because it takes place between two consenting adults. I'm against polygamy because in practice, it rarely takes place between consenting adults. It's more like creepy religious dudes (Christian sects or Muslim, maybe others, but those are the 2 main ones), groom and/or coerce young women into marrying older dudes who already have multiple wives and tend to be abusive and view women as property. So, I'd say all the things that make me PRO the one make me ANTI the other. Makes sense?

I suppose theoretically if there were multiple consenting adults who weren't groomed or coerced, it would be fine. But in real life, that doesn't seem to be what happens.

Re: Things you've wondered but can't ask without sounding like a jerk or an idiot

(Anonymous) 2017-08-28 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on why. If everyone involved consents, I don't personally give a fuck, but if I was a divorce lawyer or something I'd get sued for refusing to take on poly families' cases because damn what a headache, two people splitting is bad enough to wrangle.