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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-28 07:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #3890 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3890 ⌋

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[Harry Potter and Pretty Little Liars]


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[The Crown]


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[Me Before You (novel)]


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[Little Women, Jo/Laurie, Jo/Professor Bhaer]


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(Supergirl, Wynonna Earp)


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[The Defenders]













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(Anonymous) 2017-08-29 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt and also not disabled but I follow some disabled activists

a lot of the trouble as I understand it is that the message 'it's okay to make that choice' just cannot possibly exist in a vacuum given 1) how shitty our society is to disabled people directly in terms of not supporting or accomodating them 2) how shitty and pervasive the messages are that disabled people's lives aren't worth living and 3) how super convincing depression is that you should be dead, even though 99% of suicide attempts that get stopped are glad later that they survived

there's a point at which even the hypothetical honest value of 'it's okay to make that choice' is just...totally overwhelmed by the awful stuff that it is easily co-opted by that makes it into an irresponsible message

and I think ayrt is having the reacting they are because they've had a whole lot of 1 & 2 in their lives, maybe sometimes armed with exactly this well-meaning sounding rhetoric


ALSO purely my own opinion, but I think right-to-die messages are a lot more convincing in the context of terminal illnesses and chronic pain, where it's a matter of timing and dignity, rather than ANYONE, even the person in question, deciding 'my life is definitely not worth living, my limitations are more important than anything else that might ever happen.' Because that's shit disabled people really do not need to hear more of.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-08-29 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.