[ SECRET POST #3892 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3892 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/07/dream-daddy-creators-explain-why-you-cant-smooch-all-the-dads/

That sociopath comment (along with the one about how people who want Joseph and Mary to get divorced are "villainizing" Mary... as if it benefits her to remain trapped in a miserable marriage to a cheater) was one of the things that made me feel like at least some of the developers have a disdain for the genre. It seemed absurd to me that someone who just released a dating sim would get up on their high horse about silly small-minded players expecting that they will be able to date everyone in a dating sim. Adding realism and subverting player expectations is one thing, but you can do that without smugly punishing players for their expectations. Never mind that nothing about the marketing (which was pretty much puns, dad jokes, and 'lol the player character is your dadsona!!' jokes) implies that the game will be a thoughtful, realistic take on dating sims.

As I said, I haven't played the game (though I was considering picking it up if it goes on sale and/or gets good DLC) and I have little interest in dating sims in general, so I have little knowledge here. What that creator said just really rubbed me the wrong way.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - This is disappointing to me for two reasons. One...I fucking love Mary. It's Joseph I hate. I want Mary to dump his ass and live her own fabulous life. And as someone who reads a lot of romance and plays a lot of visual novels, I take issue with the sociopath comment. It's a game. I don't go around real life pushing boxes and climbing on them, and I don't go around manipulating real people into sex. But in a VN, the people are the puzzle and the way to solve it is the dialogue. There are a ton of VNs that aren't about romance so IA, they should have marketed it differently.

[(Anonymous)]

I wish I could just spend time with Mary forever.

(I like Joseph too but they're clearly not going anywhere fast and I hoped there was some good ending with them.)

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

(Played the game by sharing a friend's steam account, I think it was okay and quite lighthearted enough but I'm not paying $15 for a short and buggy game.)

A lot of the marketing and publicity concerning this game has been weird in the first place (cue the fanboys' ire about Game Grumps marketing this as their game and making wittle boys everywhere expect it's a parody of a gay dating sim), and while I did just shrug that article off as 'Okay whatever' I did accept that sometimes you might not get the exact ending you want. One of the dads don't 'put out' but the game does imply that a future relationship will happen in the future. I've only done 4 of the routes so far, though so I'm not sure what the other dads are doing.

That said, I totally respect how you felt about what the developers said tho. I think one comment in this thread has made me feel maybe in a similar way, something about there not being a bishounen stereotype to be seen in Dream Daddy? There's no need to put down people who like games that go with the bishounen stereotype. Or whatever else cliche tropes there are in (let's say it) Japanese gaming.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

There's no need to put down people who like games that go with the bishounen stereotype.

Didn't happen (yet). All I said was that Dream Daddy wasn't in the realm of yaoi because the entire primary cast are 40-ish fathers (and therefore, not youths) of diverse and different body types and interests. I do have a profound dislike for the formulaic gender and sex roles of yaoi, and think their mass-marketing ultimately harms GBQ men, but that's a different subject.