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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-31 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3893 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3893 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Valkyrie]


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[Joss Whedon and ex-wife Kai Cole]


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[Alyson Hannigan, "Fool Us"]


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[Wolfenstein: The New Order]


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[Anne, the new Anne of Green Gables reboot miniseries]













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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2017-08-31 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, I don't think she way her lackey. I think Gao's game depends on who she's playing it, and she plays the long con, often. Her old/small/fragile schtick is something she did before to mislead people. If she followed Alexandra, it's because it was ultimately beneficial for herself.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-31 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It's plausible but I don't know howixh that really came across on the show
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2017-08-31 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Ultimately she's the last one still standing. She deliberately set up that other member of the hand against Alexandra, and he'd have killed her too, if Elektra had not intervened. She gets what she wants in the end. I'd call that successful.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-01 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. She only acted subservient in front of Alexandra. But there're two things in the show that make me believe she was only playing at being a "lackey" (up to a point because I also think that they're was a strange form of loyalty/kinship between the fingers of the hand).

Firstly, Alexandra herself reminded her that there was a time when the other fingers plotted against herself.

And lastly, just after a scene with Alexandra where she assured her of her support, she told Murakami "You were right". Leading me to believe they were talking about Alexandra behind her back.

I believe she was ready to follow Alexandra up to a point but when she saw that she was acting too rashly, letting one of them, Sowande, get killed, and compromising their chance of going back home, she was ready to stand her ground.

I wish they had dedicated more time to her, the other fingers, and their dynamics. The idea that they just wanted to go home was compelling. Also, Gao had powers and Sowande was implied to have some too (stopping hearts). It would have been nice to see more of that as well as what powers the others (including Alexandra) could have had.

But Alexandra is dead and Mme Gao live so we can hope for a lot of great things from her next time.

I love the Defenders but it's that kind of stuff that convince me it would have benefite from a few more episodes.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-01 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
If that was the intent, the show did not do a good job of communicating that, IMO.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-01 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought they did a very good and obvious job, so ymmv.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-01 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, Alexandra was their leader. so Mme Gao has to obey her up to a point. And, like I've said before, Mme Gao had already betrayed her at one point in their history. And it was pretty clear for me (with the conspirying "You were right" for instance) that she was ready to do it again if needed be. Also, she didn't stop speaking her mind even if ultimately she did/kept the appareances of doing as she was told. Like the other poster said YMMW