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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-31 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3893 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3893 ⌋

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[Valkyrie]


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[Joss Whedon and ex-wife Kai Cole]


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[Alyson Hannigan, "Fool Us"]


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[Wolfenstein: The New Order]


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[Anne, the new Anne of Green Gables reboot miniseries]













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(Anonymous) 2017-09-01 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Whaaaat? It seems like a major stretch to equate him having sex with his wife after having sex with other people the same as her being forced to have sex with other people. That's crazy.

I can agree that potential diseases are a serious issue. But it's no more a feminist issue than if she were the one cheating on him and possibly bringing home diseases. Would you claim that Joss would be equally a victim if she was the one cheating?
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[personal profile] liz_marcs 2017-09-01 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I would. Yes.

The issue here is the risk of contracting an STI and/or an STD. The partner who is being cheated on cannot make an informed choice about "risking it" if they don't know they're at risk to begin with.

There are plenty of real-life examples of guys living on the DL infecting their wives with HIV.

Hell, my own mother back in the '60s was mysteriously infected with STIs several times before her first husband admitted that he was screwing around on her and had decided to leave her because she wasn't willing to go into the swinger lifestyle.

Despite the fact that my mother married this guy right out of high school, and that she was 20 at the time, she showed his ass the door. And part of that reason is because she wound up with a frequent flyer pass at the gyno's office and dealing with invasive questions.

So, yes. This is an issue. Regardless of who is the cheating party and who is the cheated on party.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-01 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
^ This. Cheating is about honesty and your communication - if you attend orgies and speak about protection options and how to deal with other people, it is grand. Same as is having poly relations with your partner being mono on their side - if you discussed it and communicate about it.

This director though? Spoken as if he had been an authority on women's relationships thus his ex wife saying something else and still pretty much managing to duplicate his sentiments (yeah, he did always sound same to me as in quotes she provided). If you shove your way into any idealogical minority group you are not welcome in and fail - expect repercussions.

Then there is an issue of people generally being very uninformed about STIs and STDs - you can easily acquire some by sharing toilets (even if you take precautions). Oh yes, I got one as a teenager (who never was with anyone) and it had been due to my mother's partners BUT - she was advised by her doctor when she found out and said doctor asked me to get tested and then also provided medication.

Even if I somehow cheated on my husband and even if I was certain that other people were fine - they might not be or know, nor I really would have known about myself either. Relationships are just that - no matter how many people in it - something might bugger and you need to be prepared for that.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-01 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I can agree that potential diseases are a serious issue. But it's no more a feminist issue than if she were the one cheating on him and possibly bringing home diseases.

This. It's bad. It's just not a >feminist issue.

I just keep thinking, if a feminist lesbian cheats on her partner, is that a misogynist act? Does that interfere with her feminism? No. It' doesn't. And I'd be surprised if many feminists think it does. Yet somehow when it's a man people see it differently, and I just can't agree with that.