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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-03 04:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3896 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3896 ⌋

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[Me Before You (film/novel)]


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[Star Trek TOS]


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[Persona 5]


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[Andy Brennan and Lucy Moran from Twin Peaks]


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[David Bowie, "The Man Who Fell to Earth"]


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Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
And Neo-Nazis just want to march peacefully and be friends with everyone ever

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
No one is saying that. Who in the ever-livin' fuck is saying that?

What I am saying is that if all they're doing is marching down the street chanting slogans, this does not merit window-smashing, setting things alight, and assaulting police officers with urine-filled bottles.

We should not be responding to words with violence. I thought we taught that lesson in kindergarten.

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
What I am saying is that if all they're doing is marching down the street chanting slogans

It's not

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-03 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
And if it's not, then the police should be taking care of it.
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Re: Washington Post again

[personal profile] skeletal_history 2017-09-04 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
They are using their words to incite hatred and violence, though. They're not, say, the Flat Earth Society, marching and saying silly things about the earth being flat, which we can just roll our eyes at and ignore. They're literally chanting "Seig Heil" and "The Jews will not replace us." They are trying to start a race war. They are literal fucking Nazis who want to make the US a white homeland and purge all other races and immigrants and whomever they deem inferior. Their words are weapons; if it takes violent opposition to defeat them, so be it.

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-04 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Also, they are violent.

Also, if you want to talk about Milo, Milo, when speaking in college settings, literally uses his speeches on campus to out transgender students and illegal immigrant students. That's not "just words that we don't like". That is using your speech to do real and concrete harm to vulnerable populations. Preventing him from speaking is a legitimate and valid aim for protests, although I do not think that violence is justified towards that end.

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-04 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And when they get violent, then by all means bring violence back upon them. Or, you know, call the cops instead of telling them to stand down. It's a bunch of tiny fringe idiots. Don't let them live rent-free in your head.

And, no. Preventing someone from speaking is not the answer. The answer to speech you don't like (IIRC, the trans student he "outed" was already out, and IMO illegal immigrants don't belong here; let them jump through hoops Like legal immigrants have to, instead of jumping the line) is more speech. Because pretty soon someone thinks you're the one inciting violence and endangering people, and then you're the one who's muzzled.

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-04 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And so what? They are fringe nutbars no one is listening to. They can "try" all they want, but their success is by no means assured in the Land of the Free.

And no. Words are not weapons. Weapons are weapons. And the side that brings actual weapons to a word fight is in the wrong.

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-04 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Donald Trump is the president

Re: Washington Post again

(Anonymous) 2017-09-04 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and? Did America turn into a bunch of Neo-Nazis overnight while I wasn't looking? I mean, a bunch of people who voted for Obama voted for Trump. One in ten Bernie supporters voted for Trump. Did they suddenly turn evil?