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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-13 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3906 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3906 ⌋

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Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Ever drawing anything that's not extremely shitty *aphantasia anon

Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Do you mind posting something you've drawn from imagination?

Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I could try? But go down to #16 here and that tends to sum it up pretty well. https://www.facebook.com/notes/blake-ross/aphantasia-how-it-feels-to-be-blind-in-your-mind/10156834777480504/

I'm marginally better using multiple references, but it's still kind of awkward. Now, black and white still life I'm pretty good at. I have the physical ability, just not the mental imaging.

Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Could you verbally trace out a picture you want to draw, point by point (sort of how he describes his writing process in the article). So you could maybe record it bullet point by bullet point, and then draw it out one bit at a time?

Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
oh my god. there's a name for why my brain is broken.

Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome and I'm sorry? It's awesome to know and for me it opened up a whole world of understanding (Basic math! "Picture that you have twelve apples and then visualize someone reaching in and taking away two apples how many apples do you see?" ".... uuuh...." ) And helped me make peace with the fact I'm going to suck at some things and it's not my fault. It also helped me figure out workarounds that didn't rely on visual memory.

At the same time it did hurt for a while that I wasn't going to just someday try harder and get better at those things. And also, you know, it sucks knowing other people get to play some levels on Normal Difficulty while I'm trying to learn to trial and error time each jump and button press to get through the Mario level blindfolded.

Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it'd be a little different since you had previously put in the effort to learn. Also what happens to you when you use very basic shapes and add details. If you can do still life, wouldn't very simple cartoony stuff be possible?

Re: What dreams have you given up on?

(Anonymous) 2017-09-14 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I did so maybe I could be slightly better, but...

Think of it like trying to copy this Arabic text without being able to see it - http://www.octaviasupport.org.uk/assets/0000/0719/Arabic-55.jpg

Assuming you know nothing of the Arabic alphabet or language. How long would you need to study it before you could draw it out accurately from memory? Do you think someone would be able to read what you wrote? Now compare it to someone who can look at it, read the actual words and know the alphabet and just needs to quickly memorize the text and reproduce it. Heck, they can probably even add their own handwriting 'style' to the text.

Now alternatively, if you could stare at the text while you're copying it, you can break it down and glance back and forth at each letter as you copy it and probably get a decent copy. That's still life for me. But I'm still not going to be able to read the text and understand it.

(I mean also assuming you're not one of those people who can glance for three seconds at something and reproduce it down to the smallest detail like this guy. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223790/Autistic-artist-draws-18ft-picture-New-York-skyline-memory.html
since I think that kind of ability's pretty rare.)

So through intense repetition and practice I can kind of draw a basic human-shape with kind of anime-esque influence. I use it when I'm designing cosplay outfits. If you really want to see my art, https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16387063_1612399628775474_127170124339273468_n.jpg?oh=fdcdbfe07c4b05f5d69da7ab9534a2dd&oe=5A611A97 is my in-between. I pulled up pictures of all the clothing elements I wanted and then made an effort to draw them on a human form. That's about a decade of art practice there, and that's as good as I get.