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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-19 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3912 ]


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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-09-20 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Both IMO.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a very Proto-Urban Fantasy adaptation of a classic story where greed is punished by creatively horrific magical curses, and humility is rewarded with untold riches. Of course Wonka (who is a modernist fairy king or jinn) knows what he's doing. Of course the children are tortured. And of course, Charlie gets rewarded because he's the poorest and humblest child of the lot. That doesn't matter much because it's a moralist fable and not at all realistic.

(Another mark of modernization: Charlie and the Chocolate factory is significantly less gruesome than earlier variations. After all, no one cuts off their toes to make the shoe fit, or is driven into the wilderness having been blinded by thorns.)

EDIT: My biggest problem with the Burton version: Fairy kings and jinn don't have father issues.
Edited 2017-09-20 01:27 (UTC)
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2017-09-20 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I hated the whole Wonka had daddy issues thing. especially since the point of that was apparently "even if your parents do stuff that sucks they have your best interests at heart" bullshit. I hope no kids who have abusive parents ever saw that.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-09-20 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think both film versions leaned a bit too much toward making Wonka a protagonist rather than the antagonist. Burton in particular seems to have more sympathy for dysfunctional adult man-children than for actual children.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2017-09-20 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hence why I said *just* torturing children. :-P But yes, your edit might be a better way of putting your finger on it. Depp's version becomes human with that.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-09-20 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, gotcha.