[ SECRET POST #3914 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3914 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Smallville]


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[Riley, Julie's Greenroom]


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[Anne with an E]


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[Bojack Horseman]


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[Jeeves and Wooster, P.G. Wodehouse]











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Comments

Re: Everyone's nonbinary?

[(Anonymous)]

See, to me that quote seems like a heaping pile of bullshit.

Re: Everyone's nonbinary?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

It's difficult to argue with a content-free response. But since I'm feeling a bit quixotic today...

Granted I run with an older crowd of LGBTQ people, but just about everyone I know who identifies as nonbinary or genderqueer has tried for years to work out an internalized sense of wrongness within a liberal gender "men/women can do that too." And while the parade of women from Anne Lennox to Janelle Monae rocking exquisitely androgynous but feminine suits and men from Bowie to Cumming doing androgyny on the stage is really, really, REALLY nice. It's still coding that androgyny as essentially masculine or feminine. The space for things to be gender-neutral doesn't really get expanded.

And none of that resolves the double-bind that:

1. Passing causes well-documented and measurable harm to some people. That's not a reality that's open to debate, anymore than the reality of climate change is open to reasonable debate.

2. People who fail to pass to a reasonable standard face a wide spectrum of discrimination, harassment, and violence. Nonbinary gender is therefore a de facto reality.

Re: Everyone's nonbinary?

[(Anonymous)]

just about everyone I know who identifies as nonbinary or genderqueer has tried for years to work out an internalized sense of wrongness within a liberal gender "men/women can do that too."

This really resonates with me. When I grew up, in the 80s, I worried that the fact that sometimes I felt like a guy, to the point that my body felt physically wrong, meant that I was not just sick, crazy, a freak, and wrong, but also betraying my fellow women and feminism as a whole.

The funny thing is, my interests actually fit fairly well within the generally accepted range of "geek girl" interests. It's not my distance from the gender roles that make me genderfluid, it's the fact that I sometimes wake up to discover that my brain has randomly decided that I'm a dude, and is really not happy that my body doesn't match its expectations.

Learning -- at 39 -- that gender fluidity was an actual thing that existed, made my life suddenly make sense in a way that it hadn't, before. I wasn't just a lone freak, there were other people who had the same experience. Being able to put a name to my experiences is powerful, and I really wish I'd found out about all this stuff when I was a miserable teenager.