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[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I agree, but those were mainly adult women and these would be young teenagers who hadn't entered the workforce yet. The mindset and education was still very different. Even in the canon young boys, compared to most modern boys their age, know a lot more about camping and the outdoors as general knowledge. At least, larring those with a personal interest, or boy scouts.

[meredith44]

Even in the canon young boys, compared to most modern boys their age, know a lot more about camping and the outdoors as general knowledge. At least, larring those with a personal interest, or boy scouts.
I think this completely depends on where you live. I live in upstate/western New York and in the more rural suburbs/areas, not only do people camp a lot (I know several families who camp even with toddlers, so they get interested young), but a lot are into hunting just because their families are and they grew up with it. I've known teenagers (even girls) who get hunting licenses.

I don't think if the teens were modern, it would automatically preclude them from knowing about the outdoors/camping.

[greghousesgf]

somewhat OT but I think you'd have to be out of your mind to take a baby or toddler camping

[meredith44]

I think it depends on where it is? IDK, I'm friends with a family who took their 3-year-old and not-quite-one-year old camping a lot this summer and seemed to do well with it. But it was a local campground, so if things went off the rails they could easily pack up and head home. I don't think I'd want to do it until the child was at least 3 or 4, though, even though I like camping. I know my sister (who also likes camping) only did hikes and things with her baby this year. I have no idea when they'll start camping with her.

[(Anonymous)]

My parents took me camping all the time (and later my younger siblings). You definitely have to have someone on the lookout for young kids, it's really common to do. I mean, I wouldn't take a young child on a long hike or to camp where there were crocodiles or anything, but it was no big deal.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

If you're assuming they are "the average, generic British teen" then it would still be true.

Some teens learn knitting, and others speak Chinese, but it doesn't make them representative of the average teen, which you would want if the theme is supposed to be a microcosm of society.

If we're changing the location from 1950s Britain -> 2010 Britain -> 2010 upstate New York and it's representative of upstate New York, you'd have a point.

[meredith44]

So rural Britain isn't the same as rural America, with more people interested in the outdoors? I assumed it would much more likely be an urban/rural divide than a 1950s/modern divide. Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed that regarding a separate country.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but if you're arguing that in the original setting of Lord of the Flies, the boys would've been influenced by the gender segregation of the society they were in at the time, despite not being adult men who also entered the workforce, then why wouldn't the girls have been equally influenced despite not being adult women?

"in the canon young boys, compared to most modern boys their age, know a lot more about camping and the outdoors as general knowledge"

... did they? I don't really remember how knowledgeable they were in the book since I haven't read it since middle school. But I agree with the user who said that outdoor knowledge is going to vary wildly depending upon region, socio-economic factors, etc. and it isn't necessarily useful to generalize between 1950s and now. For example, I live in a place where people hunt and do so from a young age, so they know quite a bit about the outdoors. But this is a change from where I used to live, where hunting wasn't as big a part of the culture.