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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-23 03:29 pm

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-23 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ack, misfire! Plz delete? http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1684300.html?thread=973461324#cmt973461324

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-23 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it because of how the character acts or...?

I'd rather have realistic facial hair.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-23 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I get it. I wouldn't mind a WW that looked more like Rucka's, or this art by Saeed Jalabi:

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I guess it didn't bother me that much because by then I'd willingly suspended my disbelief.

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-23 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I do the same, OP! It's so much fun. I usually come up with the most implausible crack pairings I can think of, including "pair the spares" characters and awful pairing names. AUs are fun too.

I also confess that when I'm in editing mode, I invent my own fandom wanks, complete with over-dramatic call outs about how this fic could lead to people's deaths, snarky tweets about how I should DIAF because of what happened to their favorite character, and tumblr anti shitposts. It makes me feel better about not being more popular. :D

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(Anonymous) 2017-09-23 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that "girls wouldn't even fight!" is just not a good take.

I think the problems to me are, one, it just seems kind of... pointless? As an exercise? And two, it's both disappointing, and probably a bad sign, that the creative team behind it is apparently all male.

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[personal profile] liz_marcs 2017-09-23 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I sadly agree.

I floved B5 when it ran, but even back in the day even the most hardcore fans would admit most of the acting was average to downright wooden. There were some standouts like Stephen Furst (Vir), Peter Jurasik (Londo), Billy Mumy (Lenier), and Andreas Katsulus (G'Kar), but it really wasn't enough to say that over-all the series was fantastically acted. The regulars were mostly serviceable and the guest actors were usually wooden to really terrible.

Also, at the time, B5 was really the first new space opera show with a decent budget and decent world-building to come along in a looooong time that Wasn't Trek (capitalization deliberate). All the other space opera shows that Wasn't Trek that people were watching were almost 20 years-old (and older!) by the point. At the time it really was ground-breaking and new and people were HYPED.

I mean, I've got the entire series on DVD (bought back when DVDs were a thing) and I'll be the first to say it: Parts of it hasn't really held up well. The Centauri and Narn plotlines have, parts of the Psy Corps stuff have, and some of the Nativist Earth stuff (but most of the show was so far removed from that plot it's hard to tell) but just about the rest of it has aged pretty badly. It's...very much a product of its time.

Oddly enough, Deep Space 9 (started the year before B5) and Farscape (started the year after B5 ended) actually hold up pretty well. They've both certainly aged better than B5.

I honestly don't know why that is.

I'm not involved in B5 fandom anymore (haven't in years), but I'm not terribly surprised about what you're saying OP. There were threads of that crap right from the beginning. For example, back in the day, you couldn't be a fan of DS9 and B5 (which made me a unicorn, because I sincerely liked both), and B5 was the bestest ever, how dare you suggest that the latest episode of B5 had a plotline or cliche that's been played out a million times before, ARGLE BARGLE BLAH!

So, it's not new.

On the other hand, I think a lot of the B5 fandom is kind of on the defensive because B5 is one of those almost-forgotten shows by the general populace (unlike Star Trek and Star Wars and X-Files). It hit the airwaves early-on when the Internet was mostly Usenet and Listserv, so there isn't a massive Web footprint for it. And when B5 is generally brought up in pop culture, it's most often compared to Farscape, and NOT the Star Trek pop culture phenom.

In short, I agree with you. B5 fandom always, always, ALWAYS had its share of snobs, part of it routed in the show's history. But I also think that a big part of it is defensiveness, too.

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That was such a weird movie. I do like the music.

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Eh, kind of doubt it. You know those situations where people feel like everybody is staring at them or judging them, but in reality nobody's even noticed? Like that. Unless you're a BNF or your fic is very well known, odds are it's not about you at all.


“You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.”


― Eleanor Roosevelt

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NS, NF, etc.

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