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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-09-28 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3921 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3921 ⌋

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Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2017-09-28 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand people have changed the way they watch television and that in turn has chaged how television shows are made. Many creators now favor season-long story arcs as opposed to the episodic style that used to be more popular when syndication was a major factor.

I get that. I really do.

But I really miss standalone episodes, where you didn't have to watch the whole season in chronological order to enjoy or understand it.

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2017-09-29 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I prefer a nice mix of the two. But the trend for intense non stop season long plot arcs with little to no filler episodes has another down side.

They have to do "previously on" segments, which is fine when it's one ep a week. But they don't cut those segments on the DVDs! I'm binge watching this thing, I don't need to have that interrupted by four minutes of a review of something I just saw, I am not a goldfish.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I like them, too. I tend to like shows that can be a mix of both serialized storylines and standalone stuff. I also think some shows lend themselves better to standalone episodes, and some lend themselves better to serialized storytelling, and that's fine. Neither one is automatically better or worse than the other, there's room for both types of shows.

My biggest issue with some of the serialized stuff that's coming out nowadays is that the premise often sounds really cool...but it also often tends to sound like the kind of premise that would only be able to last a limited number of episodes, and not like something that could last for seasons on end. And some shows tend to get so bogged down in their mythology and worldbuilding that the character development gets ignored as a result,, and it tends to make it harder for me to really connect with the show.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this. I think Netflix has the right idea in making shorter seasons. It doesn't always guarantee a good show, but at least you have the option to write more compact plots without a lot of filler or without stretching your ideas too thinly.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-28 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
100% agree
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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-09-28 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I like both. I do wish there were more single episodes these days because the balance feels off to me. I like arcs (and in some fandoms, arcs are the best thing, like Babylon 5), but I want stand alones too. Even in shows that used to have arcs, some of the best episodes were standalones, and that isn't true today.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-29 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Most of my favorite episodes of Supernatural are "Monster of the Week" episodes.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2017-09-29 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
In seasons 1 and 2 that is true for me, and I'd say they are many of my overall favorites. I do like the arc of 4 and 5, though.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-29 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I have similar feelings, and it's why I end up watching a lot of stuff on educational channels like Science and National Geographic, because I can jump into any random program about space and still enjoy it.

I like over-arching plots, but they aren't always well done. TV is serialized storytelling and TV stories should be crafted in such a way that they are understandable in serialized format, not as a 13-hour movie that must be consumed all in one gulp.
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[personal profile] meredith44 2017-09-29 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. It works for some shows, like the ones I binge on Netflix, but I watch a decent amount of television, and having to keep all of the details straight for all of the season arcs, week to week (especially when there are breaks where the show isn't airing for whatever reason) is difficult. It often makes me give up on shows that I think I could have really liked otherwise.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2017-09-29 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think lots of people have forgotten that it is actually a challenge to make those types of episodes interesting and give shows with the big epic arcs more credit than they sometimes deserve. Both types of storytelling can feel lazy or forced and it's a shame that most of the shows that do self-contained plots still are just bad.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-29 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I liked the balance in early-mid 90s shows like X-Files and later seasons of Deep Space 9 - long arcs but lots of stand-alone episodes on the way.

(Anonymous) 2017-09-29 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Standalone is my favorite episode type. It's one of the reasons I love Cutthroat Kitchen or Hotel Impossible or those type shows, and I liked early seasons of House and CSI and Criminal Minds.