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⌈ Secret Post #527 ⌋

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... Token gesture of a female character is token.. My God, can you fucking people abandon the meme just long enough to make your point?

No, I don't watch the show. Maybe that's why I'm not ridiculously offended by the very suggestion of a female doctor. Such ideas are clearly the product of lesser minds and should only be responded to with hostility and anger.

Seriously. Get a grip.

Well if you don't watch the show WHY THE FUCK bother commenting. And if you can't argue it within the context of the show you just stomping around saying: 'Oh well I'll decide to be feminist here' just looks like you being pretentious.

The fact is the OP'er might have well have said, I won't read Harry Potter because it's not about Harriet Potter. There have been female timelords, but there will never be a female Doctor.

If you don't like something or can't be bothered to watch a good show at least have a validated reason for it.

And you seriously, grow the hell up and actually take a look at what you're arguing before you start spouting off your own ignorance and end up making yourself look stupid. But I guess lesser minds as you say, don't tend to check what they're arguing first, now do they?

Edited 2008-06-15 23:12 (UTC)

The fact is the OP'er might have well have said, I won't read Harry Potter because it's not about Harriet Potter... If you don't like something or can't be bothered to watch a good show at least have a validated reason for it.

And that... isn't?

Seriously, it might not deter me or you, but if someone decides they're not interested in a show because they'd prefer a female protagonist... why does it matter? Maybe they just want a protagonist they can identify with better and are looking elsewhere for one. This harms you how?

I don't think that's the problem here. Sure, you might prefer a female main character. But suggesting that JK Rowling is wrong for not making it about Harriet Potter, is a bit weird. And almost sexist the other way. I mean, can't you have a male main character? But if it's a personal choice, like, you just want a female main character, that's fine. But the thing is, the Doctor is NOT going to be female. Ever. He's a man. Just because he can change his body doesn't mean it's sexist or something for them not to have him turn into a female.

Ahhh, that does make sense - hadn't been looking at it that way. I have a lot of sympathy for just wanting a female protag, but if it's "show sucks, female Doctor nao" then yeah.

I'm not sure how the original commenter calling the secret maker an idiot for not checking their Doctor Who facts makes sense when the secret was about why they're not interested in Doctor Who, but I think I understand the underlying point now.

And have I actually said I wouldn't like a female protagonist?

No, I've said there won't be a female Doctor.

The fact of the matter is there are female protagonists, which is why the secret is so ridiculous in the first place.

The secret strikes me as coming across with a the real reason I'm not watching this show is because I think this is sexist or something along the lines of that - the fact of the matter is that's simply not true. And via the fact of not watching the show hence this ridiculous proposition of: omfg are you threatened by the the idea of a female doctor???

No, IT JUST WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

(oh haha I was a bit mad when I wrote this, I see what you're saying, I just think that if you drag this show which tries so very hard to be absolutely PC, they have a lot of kickass women on it as main characters, female time lords, even the Doctor's Daughter to compensate for that. I've adored the female companions, season 3 proved one of them was just as powerful as the Doctor herself it was awesome. And season 4 Donna keeps truimphing him and making him look like an idiot over and over again. That's why the secret annoys me, it's just pushing DW onto such a basic sexist level of why can't he be a woman? I can't identify with this show being sexist annoys me to hell. No he can't be a woman, but they've done everything else to make this as female empowering as possible.

It's not even I watch the show and would like him to be a woman in one reincarnation, because honestly, I would too. :'D )

Edited 2008-06-16 10:45 (UTC)

I'm arguing for you to stop being such a stuck up bitch.

She wants a female doctor. Stop acting like it's some grevious insult to your person and chill the fuck out.

Why bother commenting? I don't know. I guess the batshit just draws me in.

Well you've certainly proved you're mature haven't you?

Why bother commenting?

Don't make me laugh, let me guess you're the type of person who likes to pick fights to wank off to support their own ego right? How sad. Do you do this in RL too or are you just goaded by the anon on the internet?

The fact of the matter is I never said I wouldn't like a female main character, but it will never happen and this is not something that should be held against the show which is ridiculously PC.

And hardly grievous (you spelled that wrong btw WELL DONE!) insult, but more of a check your facts before you dismiss this on some made up level of being a feminist.

I think Martha more than makes up for the Doctor not being a woman, but again how the hell do you know what to argue if you've never watched the show?

Mmm, pretty embarrassing to pick fights if you have no clue what they're about isn't it?

I don't think there *can* be a female Doctor. He's a man, I don't think he can regenerate into a female.

My point exactly, it would be nice to have on, but there can't be one.

Basically they try their hardest to compensate for that with kickass companions.

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