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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-15 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #527 ]


⌈ Secret Post #527 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] pavonine.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Christian here too, and I'm pretty sure the Church--at least the Roman Catholic one--doesn't like the death penalty either.

Also, it's not cool to insult Muslims or Jews in fandom because their stereotypes aren't portrayed as stupid like the stereotypical Bible thumper halfwit. Actually, my theory on why Judaism isn't ripped on in fandom is because there are several Jewish characters in several fandoms--Jon Stewart and Kyle Broflovski jump to mind--so love of those characters inspires love of whoever and whatever they are, but that's just a little theory, and I'm not sure if it holds true for Muslims because you don't see many Muslim characters in mainstream fandoms.

Christianity takes the heat, though, because for some reason it attracts many more big-mouthed idiots than Islam or Judaism. Falwell, Robertson, Huckabee, plus the entire contingent of those stereotypical Bible thumpers who despise gays and rabidly take down anyone who believes in evolution--they get painted in such an ugly light, and their hate makes them objects of hatred. Compare it to race--make all the white trash jokes you want, but make one stereotypical joke about blacks and someone will call you a racist.

I think it's because most of the country is Christian, and from what I've observed it's currently the trend to attack the majority's beliefs and support the beliefs of minorities. There's nothing wrong with supporting minorities, but when it's done at the expense of the majority it starts to suck big time.

[identity profile] dots.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm actually Mormon, which is not traditional Christianity in any sense (a lot of the regular Christian world labels us as 'non-Christian'), and I think our leaders endorsed the death penalty, though I don't remember the exact rationale behind it. I just remember hearing it some years ago, when I was a teenager.

You do make a lot of good points here, actually. It's still sad, but I guess the psychos out there also do it in reverse. Like all the conservative smear machine rumors about Jews controlling the media, or how people think all Muslims are terrorists. It's sad, and it shouldn't happen, but it still does.

I can see that people feel like they're the minority in America. Especially in fandom, which is kind of a gathering place for people who have been "the outcasts" in some way in their lives. We're the nerds and the geeks, band students, drama kids, the weird people in school who never made the popular crowd. A friend of mine and I were talking about this, actually, and it seems to run along the same lines. Fandom members are used to being outcast and laughed at and having no real way to strike back IRL, because it's just kids being cruel to each other, and what can you do when you're a kid? But on the internet, words have power, and it's very easy to strike back when you feel cornered and threatened, or even just to pre-emptively do so. It's kind of a double-edged sword.