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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-08 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #3931 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3931 ⌋

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Re: Wonder Woman

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-09 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, it wasn't a great sketch, and all the performances were surprisingly dull and wooden. But I saw the sketch as mocking gay subtext and gaybaiting in superhero cinema. It's certainly a far cry to say that an SNL sketch mocking a movie is "some kind of statement on canon."

EDIT: Especially since Gadot is on the record as saying it's a reasonable interpretation that she's willing to perform if it's developed in future screenplays.
Edited 2017-10-09 13:26 (UTC)

Re: Wonder Woman

(Anonymous) 2017-10-09 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
But that kind of raises the question - is mocking gay subtext in film a valid end?

Re: Wonder Woman

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-09 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure. I think Disney and Warner try to have their cake and eat it too. They use subtext and blink-and-you'll-miss-it moments to appeal to LGBT and LGBT-friendly audiences, while still maintaining plausible deniability.

This sketch may have been informed by what happened with Ghostbusters, with McKinnon playing Holzman as lesbian within sharp boundaries from the studio that she not be obviously lesbian. It might also be a nod to Professor Marston and the Wonder Women, which will open up to wider release this Friday. The whole problem that Wonder Woman can be lesbian/bi and kinky in subtext as long as that is never explicitly stated has plagued the character from her creation.

And, maybe there was a bit of mockery of how eagerly LGBT people read ourselves into that subtext. It doesn't help that the performance of the whole thing was wooden and awkward. So the contrast between the Amazons flirting with each other and Diana protesting too much that they're all "sisters" didn't quite work for me. It's pretty standard fare for guest hosts to do a sketch mocking their previous roles though.