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What boycott? What purpose?

Actress Rose McGowan's twitter was suspended after she tweeted against Harvey Weinstein (yet Trump gets to retweet gifs of violence against women). In response a lot of people have called for a boycott of the site today.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/women-boycott-twitter-rose-mcgowans-account-suspended-090934587.html

DA

It's also not just that, but a more general and continuous dissatisfaction with the way the site handles a variety of issues.

"Twitter has justified its suspension of her account, however.

“We have been in touch with Ms. McGowan’s team. We want to explain that her account was temporarily locked because one of her Tweets included a private phone number, which violates of our Terms of Service,” a representative for Twitter said in a statement."

The argument is that Twitter doesn't actually enforce that rule, or any rule, in any consistent way.

True.

But it's still important context. If someone is posting possible doxxing phone numbers in the middle of a big scandal that is getting all this attention and Twitter leaves it up, that's different from them leaving up the phone number of some random person with three followers who's mad at their mom. Clearly one of these things is far more irresponsible of them as a company.

I get what you're saying, but I also want to be clear that - as far as I understand - it wasn't a doxxing type situation at least in intent. McGowan had posted a screenshot of an email that happened to include someone's phone number, I believe, but it's not like that was the reason she posted it.

I get the reasons that they took it down, but it's also an enormously bad look given the context and given the many other, real problems with the administration of the site.

Do you get what I'm saying, though? I don't think you do.

I'm not saying anything other than that it's important context that should be pointed out before pitchforks are raised, based on the first response to the anon that didn't include that information.

And by "possible doxxing numbers" I meant they ran the risk of leading to doxxing, not that the poster was calling for it, btw.

Yes. I also wanted to provide more context.

In the first case, I wanted to provide context because I worry that if you just cite the reason that Twitter gave for their suspension of McGowan, peoples' natural reaction is to just not look into it anymore and say "Aha, that makes sense, I guess the whole Twitter boycott is just idiots overreacting as usual, damn SJWs".

In the second case, I wanted to make it clear that this wasn't a situation where McGowan was intentionally doxxing anyone, because I thought that was ambiguous.

I see.

I said it above, but I meant the numbers could lead to doxxing, not that McGowan was calling for people to do it. I tried to get that across with the "possible" but it was confusingly phrased on my end.

Sure, no worries, I think I kind of came off as more argumentative than I meant to as well.

Haha, if it came off like I meant she was maliciously inviting people to doxx, I don't blame you!

Personally I don't think people are overreacting. I understand why they are angry. But I do also think Twitter was stuck between a rock - pissing everyone off - or a hard place - possibly being sued for letting a number stay up in a scandal getting millions of views - and took the logical company line of not being sued.

DA

Then why didn't Twitter suspend Lou Dobbs when he deliberately did something similar during the 2016 campaign against those who accused Trump of sexual assault?

I haven't tweeted, so I suppose in some sense.

Honestly, the amount of argument and disagreement about it has been kind of funny.

didn't know about it, but also didn't really go on twitter

I have. I'm not a prolific tweeter by any means, but I do tend to read tweets. Decided I can skip out one day, so I did.

Nope, I don't think shutting up is the answer at all. Plus I admit that I'm uncomfortable that people only got up in arms now instead of like... when Leslie Jones was viciously attacked on Twitter, for instance. Idk.

I'd say this is the closest thing to a consensus that I've seen on my personal TL

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Anybody join the Twitter Boycott today?

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Some important context, before the pitchforks.

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