[ SECRET POST #3938 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3938 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yakuza Kiwami]


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[Fast and Furious feud, The Rock vs. Vin Diesel]


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[The X-Files]


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[Urashiman]


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[Chris Hemsworth]


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[Cuphead]











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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

This is the case a lot for me too. It's easier to slash than femslash because of how a lot of canon writers treat male characters vs how they treat female ones.

Certain mainstream shows and canons do stand out for having their female characters have significant personal interactions with each other, but let's be honest, they're rare proportionally.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a bi woman, and for a long time I've been trying to figure out why I have so many more m/m ships than f/f, and I realized that I only ship non-canonically-paired characters who are shown in canon to have close friendships. The more emotionally intense and intimate and Meaningful the friendship, the more likely I am to ship it. I can't muster up any interest in actively shipping any other kind of characters, even if I can find the ship interesting in theory and/or enjoy fanart involving it. Doesn't matter the gender of the characters---this is true for m/m, m/f, and f/f pairings. And it is overwhelmingly less common for two women to not only be fully, meaningfully developed as characters, but to be depicted in a serious and intimate and at least somewhat thoroughly explored friendship together. I am drawn to certain types of characters, and certain types of narratives, and certain types of canon relationships for my pairings, and those kinds of character types/narratives/canon relationships are almost NEVER given to female characters. I mean, one of my most favorite pairings is Steve/Bucky in the MCU. Everything about their characters, their established canon relationship, and the narrative surrounding them, hits my ship buttons. But you simply do not ever see any of that kind of thing with female characters, because male writers and directors are not interested in writing women that way or assigning them that kind of storyline or relationship with each other.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I agree. I'm lesbian and I'd love to read great f/f, but I so rarely get fired up about a ship. M/m stuff just usually feels more developed, and has personalities I'm more interested in.

[(Anonymous)]

I do think it's worth remarking (even at the same time as I'm a committed femslash shipper) how much more barren the ground is for femslash ships compared to slash ships. It really drives home the disparity in gender roles in media. I mean, the reality is that in most shows and movies and stuff, there's basically only one, or at most 2 or 3, possible femslash ships, just because of how few female characters there are and how rarely they interact.

So, uh, I definitely sympathize. But at the same time, gosh, femslash is just the best.

[(Anonymous)]

I can relate. I too have fairly specific taste in my ships, and it's not even that easy to find the kind of dynamics I like in M/M or M/F, let alone F/F. It gets frustrating.

[rosehiptea]

I sometimes find myself shipping female characters who never had a real interaction or even never met (at least on-screen). I enjoy ships like that but it shouldn't have to be that way so I totally understand your complaint.

[nightscale]

I've got a few femslash ships I like purely for how pretty they'd be together but if we're talking actual dynamic and interaction then yeah I feel you. Because when a show I like has a lot of ladies and they have a good amount of screentime together I am just as likely to ship f/f as I do m/m and m/f(it's just a lot easier to find m/m and m/f dynamics I like because there's more options for them, which sucks because f/f is so good too).

And I'm someone that for my big ships and OTP's that I adore I require at least some screentime, otherwise it'll just be a small 'this is fun' ship.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel this. Whenever I really feel a femslash ship there's zero content.

Have you tried looking for f/f versions of a slash ship you enjoy? That's a good way to find femslash, even if it's not exactly what you're looking for.

[(Anonymous)]

One of the good general scientific statistical laws of fandom to keep in mind is that femslash fandom displays an enormous preference for canon ships.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a lot of femslash ships but I have to really go looking for them. There's so many shows/movies/books where there's only one significant female character (so she doesn't interact with other women) or there's a few but they're far apart and don't have significant relationships, or there's two and they're sisters (fine if you're an incest shipper, not so good for me!)

Or then you get a really good one like Rizzoli and Isles and one of the actresses is a raging homophobe, which is very off-putting again.

[bluegansey]

I feel this SO HARD. Right now my main fandoms have so few female characters that I'm not reading or writing much femslash at all and I feel so GUILTY about it. There's basically one major femslash ship that I like in one of those fandoms, and I basically burnt myself out reading and writing it about a year ago, so I feel like I can't regain interest, and it's just a terrible feeling. And I constantly want to do crossover ships or theoretical ships, but yeah, I also can't really convince my imagination to work for me that way.

[(Anonymous)]

While this might be true on individual level, I feel like this excuse does not hold water at the fandom-wide level. The fact that characters don't have much by way of characterization and have 0.02 seconds of shared screentime has not stopped some fairly major ships from becoming popular (Kylo/Hux immediately comes to mind). You - individual you - might ship pairings that already have established chemistry in canon, but if fandom only stuck to that, it would have have been a much smaller place. I wish everyone would just stop the ritualistic hand-wringing (oh, I'd love to write f/f, if only!..) and just admit that you (general you) write what you find hot, and you tend to find m/m pairings hotter. That's not a reflection on your politics, or sexuality, or whatever ffs.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Your thoughts on yaoi won't solve sexism and racism

[(Anonymous)]

This. This is exactly why I don't write f/f. Personal preferences.

[(Anonymous)]

I really want River back so she can kiss every Doctor ever *shrugs*.