[ SECRET POST #3939 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3939 ⌋

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Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

I was communicating via e-mail with a business partner from another company at work. Professional salary job. This woman - who had a female name - literally stuck her "preferred pronouns" in her e-mail signature. Her work e-mail signature. Spoiler alert, her preferred pronouns were female.

I found it absolutely baffling, completely useless, and frankly, not very professional.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[morieris]

I can see trying to normalize it...but presumably she's not talking to five people at once in an email, just one at a time, and you're probably not going to be using pronouns that aren't 'you'.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

but... why would putting pronouns in a professional work e-mail signature need to be "normalized"?

and what's the point of declaring the gender everyone would've assumed you were anyway?

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[morieris]

Yeah, this is someone being wellmeaning but misguided.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

If it's an email signature, doesn't that most likely mean that it's something that gets appended to every e-mail regardless of the context?

I mean, either way, I just don't agree that there's anything "unprofessional" about it. So the basic premise of anon's argument is wrong.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see how it's unprofessional.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's a fine way to address pronoun usage among professional salaried people. It's unobtrusive and part of someones contact details. maybe she transitioned and needs to periodically remind people. Maybe she's trying to support a coworker with a less conventional gender presentation. Why not?

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

DA: This.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really think it's someone's contact details, at least not that merits a spot in your professional e-mail signature. You think your customer cares? They need your name, position, and company. Maybe your direct line. They don't need any personal information about you. Especially if your name already suggests the gender that aligns with you.

Pronouns just seems so dumb to me. Why not just say your gender (as in, male, female, or gender neutral/intersex) in your profile, if your e-mail contact account has that. Putting pronouns just seems so unnecessary. And why three of them. Why is it always she/her/hers or whatever. I half expect to be fooled halfway through and get a she/they/his or something ridiculous like that, or the dreaded fairy snowflake made up pronouns.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

The functional purpose of mentioning your pronouns is that if the person to whom you're talking needs to refer to you using a pronoun, they will know what pronouns they should use.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

If people are talking TO me they don't need pronouns.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

Not if she's replying to you. But it's really not hard to imagine business situations where someone would write an email about someone else - for instance, if you were communicating someone's issue out to a third party to deal with it. And in a situation like that, pronouns would be useful. And so I can see why someone would include it in their default signature.

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
email signatures vary a lot between professions (like I have seen some dumb ones) but if a person served as an ongoing contact person or representative I can see pronouns being useful.

I assume they say pronouns instead of gender because the people who do need this find it more useful. It tells you what you need to know to interact with them without getting into their whole gender identity. For people you only have a superficial relationship with, isn't that more appropriate?

Re: Things you straight up don’t get

[(Anonymous)]

You keep repeating female name, female name, female name. You do know... that that's very regional?

I have a friend named Mehgan (like Megan) and she gets people assuming it's a guys name. I've heard Seanan is also a huge tossup on if it's a standard boy's name or a standard girl's name.