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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-30 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3953 ⌋

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Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
My tiny bit of salt is that everyone is treating Rapp and Crews as credible today after decades of gaslighting and JAQing ("just asking questions") attempts by men (broadly defined) to discuss sexual assault and sexual abuse? Yeah, I think straight women are not the experts there.

Can you expand on this? Not disagreeing - I'm honestly not understanding what you're driving at here

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-30 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a long history of argument that men can't be sexually assaulted or abused because they're always into having sex, barring the most extreme forms of physical violence or abuse of pre-adolescents by adults. Or that sexual assault has a different meaning for men because, patriarchy.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ah! So the point you're making is, why didn't people believe them before now? That makes sense.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-31 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Or to phrase it better, there's such a long history of destructive skepticism of gay and bi male survivors that perhaps straight women should take a back seat in discussion of consent.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
In general discussions of consent, or just in instances involving male survivors?

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-31 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Involving male survivors.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I've usually heard the idea that men can't be assaulted or raped by women, but I thought everyone knew a man could rape another man? Or does that only apply if the victim is a straight man being assaulted by a gay/bi man?

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-31 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not interested in arguing a rape-denial perspective based on hypotheticals this evening.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
People act like "he's gay so he must have enjoyed it" all the time what world are you living in

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but I’ve never heard that; the closest creepy bullshit I can think of is the bs “all homophobes are closeted” argument. But then I knew from when I was pretty young that my mom’s dad raped his wife, my mom, and both her brothers and they sure as shit didn’t want it, so...

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Not Ayrt, but it's the first time I'm hearing that one.
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Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2017-10-31 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
men aren't "always into having sex" as far as I'm concerned. I'm the anti-Viagra.