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⌈ Secret Post #534 ⌋

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Notes:

Also,

firefly99 remixed the theme song.

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"To reclaim is to bring a word back to a more acceptable course." Excuse the use of Wiki, but I think we can agree that's the very basic meaning.

So, to bring it back into society as an acceptable way to refer to a minority as opposed to the offensive way in which most of society usually thinks of it as. That's how I think of it, anyway.

I'm not saying I want to go around calling anyone and everyone a faggot lol because uh. No. But just saying 'well, we can use it, but no one else is allowed' doesn't... actually solve any of the problems surrounding the word. I don't think so, anyway.

To have everyone use it in order to reclaim it defeats the whole purpose. The literal definition doesn't really take into account histories. Derogatory terms like "faggot" have been used by the privilege majority to insult and, at times, oppress the minority. The majority has defined the minority in words and in laws. That's why it cannot be included in the reclaiming. That has to be done by that particular minority, in order to redefine themselves and on their own terms.

There will be a time in the future when the words have been redefined and everyone WILL be able to use them. But for most of them, their histories are still fresh or even still occurring, so that's not right now.

Edited 2008-06-23 01:10 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't think of it that way. To be honest, thinking about it a bit more, I'm completely desensitised to it online on things like 4chan and the like (which doesn't mean I go around throwing it at anything that moves, but seeing it barely gets a reaction, which is probably not a good sign), but offline, I wouldn't think about using it in any context and I'd raise eyebrows (at the very least) toward anyone else who did, no matter what intention they had with it.

Even if it was suddenly acceptable en masse, I wouldn't find myself saying it.

So... yeah. Good point, well made. XD Something to bear in mind.
I only looked at the other comments after making my one and facepalmed. I'm not bitter over my cruel oppressed position as a straight white person in the first world, honest. :|

We're desensitized to a lot of things online. My reaction to use online is different from my reaction to someone using it offline, as well, although I'm at the very least annoyed by both. I guess it's the complimentary aspect of the Anonymous Asshole Theory -- they feel free to say anything and we're not as phased by it because it's the internet.

But I'm glad that made sense, and explained it a bit more. :)

I get where you're coming from completely, but the way I see it, it's none of my business if a group is reclaiming a word or not and if they are, I don't have the right to set their agenda.

I sort of agree with you in that I do think that allies can definitely help to reclaim, but the problem is that no one wears their prejudices tattooed on their forehead. I think the issue is a lot more complex than "Gay people can say it and other people can't," but it gets boiled down to that because that's just the easiest way to keep people who are going to be offensive, whether or not they mean to, at bay.

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