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⌈ Secret Post #3955 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What are the world building flaws you see in the Thrawn Trilogy?

[(Anonymous)]

The one that comes to mind is how small the government is, how they're short on ships and manpower so that Leia, Han, Luke, and the other main characters have to go do everything, and everyone's stretched so thin. It makes the galaxy really small.

[(Anonymous)]

Versus Star Trek III: The Search for Luke TFA, where they've got so many resources to spare that they're sending 70-year-old Han with people they don't even know on missions.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT and I haven't watched the movie in a while, but I thought the reason they sent him on the mission was because of... you know... his son

[(Anonymous)]

That seems like a poor tactical choice on multiple levels. Maybe if Kylo was 14 it would make sense to send his dad after him, but dude's like 30. And also one of the mass-murdering leaders of Space ISIL. Maybe send some Space SEALs on this one.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is just how they do things in Star Wars though

[(Anonymous)]

That made sense to me in the movie so we're probably just not of the same page. I was talking more about the bigger stuff anyway. Like, in the Thrawn Trilogy, Leia and Han are official members of the government but the government is so weak and tiny that they need to send Han to get smugglers to get trade going (as if the galaxy is small enough that a few smugglers would solve the lack of ships problem). And Leia is being worked over time because she is one of the few people who can negotiate and do diplomatic stuff.

Compare that to the new Canon where the Resistance is a sort-of illegal group because Leia cannot get the backing of the New Republic. She's not representing the entirety of the government (and all the people it represents); she's kind of viewed as a warmongering nut. There are a ton of other political parties that do not align with or support her so she has to act on her own but those other factions are still there and do exert influence over the story.

The politics are much larger as there are so many competing interests in the galaxy. It feels much more complicated and realistic. There are other stories going on that aren't about Leia and the other OT characters so the galaxy feels more fleshed out (obviously I am including a lot of the comics and books in this - if you only watch the movies, it's not as clear).

[philstar22]

I don't think it is really fair to compare the Thrawn Trilogy and TFA because they take place in very different time periods. Thrawn is only 5 years after ROTJ, so of course the government is going to be small. It isn't like the entire galaxy is going to magically become the New Republic after the death of the Empire. They still have to work at it and get planets to join them. That takes time. And of course the heroes of the original trilogy would be very important because that's the way it works, even in real life. People who are seen as having played important roles in wars are in the public eye, often involved in politics, and just generally still important in the first few years after a war is over.

TFA is 30 years after ROTJ, so it makes sense that most of the galaxy is part of the New Republic. By 30 years after ROTJ in Legends, the New Republic was bigger and there were a lot more different political views. In fact, there was even a change in government from the New Republic to the Galactic Alliance. And they were fighting very different enemies whereas in TFA, the New Order is basically the Empire rebooted.

[(Anonymous)]

I still don't agree. I think it is fair to compare the two because the Thrawn trilogy did not feel like a real lived-in galaxy, regardless of how many years had passed.

But it's not just TFA. Closer to ROTJ, you have Rebels that showcase not only the Ghost's crew but also talks about the Lothal cell and Saw's cell and the Massassi Group, etc. Right after ROTJ, you have books and comics introducing us to Norra Wexley and Shara Bey, and we follow their exploits as well as the main trio. I'm not saying that Luke, Leia, and Han shouldn't be important or the focus but to suggest that they have to do everything is to make the galaxy feel small.

Also, I thought getting rid of Obi-wan and the Force Ghosts was really stupid in the Thrawn trilogy and also limited the worldbuilding. There's just something about the old Legends stuff that felt small and one-dimensional. I'm not getting that feeling from the new Canon.