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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-11-05 03:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3959 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3959 ⌋

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thewakokid: (Default)

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-11-05 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Fucking AGAIN?!

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
fucking again.
thewakokid: (Default)

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-11-05 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok. Fucking hell. Which side?

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-05 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
fuck off
thewakokid: (Default)

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-11-06 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
What? There are precisely three possible reasons this happened, and I want to know which one.

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
White guy so...mental illness?
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Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-11-06 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Or some form of bigotry. Maybe both, but depending on the race of the church goers, could be racial. Could still be religious, given the location, but slightly less likely. Less likely to be political too (political in a "Take my politics seriously" could be a political ideology, but I'd need to know more about the victims). My bet is either lone loonatic, or someone who spent too much time on places like /Pol/ but I really would like more info.
Edited 2017-11-06 00:16 (UTC)

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
People are dead, it's not a sports game
thewakokid: (Default)

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-11-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
No. It's significantly more important than that. Hence why it is more important to know what drove this particular retard to enact his retardation onto the world.

Let me say further to that, that one of three groups of people will start to politicise it.

1. The "FUCKING MUSLIMS!" side.
2. The "FUCKING TOXIC MASCULINITY" side.
and 3. The side that doesn't care who he was, why he did it, or who his victims were, only the What he used to do it.

I would be interested in knowing which side is going to have the most ammo, so I can be prepared for the inevitable political volley ball this, like every other tragedy in the last 50 years, will inevitably lead to.
Edited 2017-11-06 00:39 (UTC)

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's looking like a mix of 2 and 3. He was a former Air Force person that was dishonorably discharged and likely got his weapon illegally.

And he's white, so you know the word terrorism won't leave Trump's lips.

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I have my issues with Wako('s views), but these sorts of bad faith interpretations of everything he says make you look foolish and rude, not him.

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-06 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
My personal feelings about Wako are what they are, but my issue here isn't just about that - if it was just about that, I just wouldn't respond, which is what I usually try to do. The specific phrase that he used really bothered me, and I think it was the wrong phrase to use, because it is a tragedy and not a contest with sides to root for. Even in the context of trying to figure out how the political discourse is going to play out, it just goes too far in the direction of diminishing the actual tragedy and loss of life for me to be comfortable with it. Because ultimately, it's a tragedy that exists outside of the framework of who is going to win power in the next election. And focusing on which side "won" also takes away focus from trying to make concrete changes to prevent things like that happening.

All that said - even with all of that - I also stopped arguing because I didn't want to be unfair to Wako. To me, it's an absolutely wrong phrase regardless of intent, but if Wako wants to talk about it like it was just a bad phrasing and he was really talking about the discourse, that's his prerogative. It's possible whether or not I think it's likely.

But ultimately, what I want to say is that what Wako said really genuinely bothered me, and I think it was a wrong thing to say whatever he meant by it, and I would have objected to it whoever said it.

Re: Mass shooting in a Texas church

(Anonymous) 2017-11-07 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Grow up