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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-11-11 03:18 pm

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Re: Controversial/Unpopular Opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-11-11 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe the world was once guided by the feminine

Can you expand on this

Re: Controversial/Unpopular Opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-11-11 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Well, I recently read The Living Goddess by Marija Gimbutas, and it really blew out of the water the idea that a male dominated society has just always been the case.

I've read other bits and pieces of a more feminist view of history and also am reading some currently...a hundred little details come together in so many ways from various sources to make me no longer just believe the current idea that men have always, should always, will always be in charge. Hunter gatherer societies were and are more egalitarian in general and by design than agricultural societies in general, for instance.

There's too much to put into one comment but these are some I recommend.
The Great Cosmic Mother, Monica Sjoo and Barbara Mor

Women's Work, by Elizabeth Wayland Barber

I just spent ten minutes searching for another title I found informative, but unfortunately can't find it today!!

Anyway the more I learn and look, the more it's like taking a curtain away and exposing light. The world has been ruled, determined, and its history written by and for and about men for a very, very long time. The MRAs have had nearly full control for a long time...and whenever possible, blamed, killed, enslaved, and destroyed women w/ any sort of power or freedom, using the excuses of protecting the "good" women, following their one and true religion, etc.

But there are still glimpses they couldn't completely obliterate of what was, what could be...what will be.

Basically, there's a lot out there to read, research, discover.

Re: Controversial/Unpopular Opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-11-12 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I recently read The Living Goddess by Marija Gimbutas, and it really blew out of the water the idea that a male dominated society has just always been the case.

Just wanted to point out that this aspect of Gimbutas' work is largely regarded as incorrect by mainstream archaeology and anthropology.

I agree that it does not seem to be the case that all human societies have been fundamentally patriarchal, but I'm a lot more skeptical of peoples' characterizations of matriarchal societies, especially ones that seem particularly utopian. It seems unrealistic and a product of wishful thinking.

Re: Controversial/Unpopular Opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-11-12 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
You sound slightly unhinged.

Re: Controversial/Unpopular Opinions

(Anonymous) 2017-11-12 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I figured Gimbutas would be behind this.

I do like Barber a lot, though I've only read her book on the Mummies of Urumchi. It's true that there is a lot about the human experience that doesn't survive in the archaeological record, and it's necessary to be careful with assumptions about the gender of the person who made a thing. However, it's too much of a reach to say everything was controlled by women when most likely different societies did things differently.