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(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, good, it's not just me. The whole concept of this movie really pissed me off, and the fact that it won the Oscar for Best Picture over the far more deserving Saving Private Ryan was the nail in the coffin for the Academy Awards for me.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oscar is a joke, none should care about it.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah. But twenty years ago, if there was a movie nominated I'd actually seen, I found myself caring. After that? Not so much.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I felt just the opposite. By the time I saw Private Ryan it couldn't possibly live up to the hype and I was just blah on it. Shakespeare in Love was just charming to me. I still love it.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
+1. I'm with you. Didn't care for Saving Private Ryan - much preferred The Thin Red Line, which I believe was the same year - and Shakespeare in Love felt like something different and, as you say, kind of charming. Sometimes I like it when the big bloated important Oscar bait movies don't actually take the prize.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-25 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT -- Belatedly, I too preferred The Thin Red Line. I saw it once and thought I didn't like it, but it stuck in my head and I ended up going back twice. I thought it was a much better, less cliched, war movie.

And Shakespeare in Love was like having the perfect Pomeranian win Westminster. It was just really good at being what it was.
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[personal profile] mimi_sardinia 2017-11-23 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
The movie it was up against that I was sad it won out over was Elizabeth.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Where do you hang out that there's people liking this movie, OP? This movie is widely accepted as shit, people ridicule Paltrow's Oscar win in this, it's always mentioned as 'undeserved win' on lists like '10 Most Overrated Oscar Wins' or '20 movies that should've won instead of the ones that do' where this movie is listed as 'the ones that do' etc etc

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think people hate the movie, even if they mostly agree that it shouldn't have won the Oscar.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
I never was aware this got nominated for anything at all as it was a cheesy flick which was same as any other Shakespeare thing back then (not that it changed but I did not like him or things he written. Unfortunately I did like Austen's satire more as writing style so cannot be a judge on anything as people also hate her for same reasons as him). However the wtf bi-deleting thing is still wtf.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Critics and cinephiles alike hate this movie, anon, most movie comms online love to shit on this movie like they love to shit on The King's Speech and Revenant and other baffling Oscar winners.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oi, The King's Speech was great.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
It's really far from unique in that, though. Adultery seems really common in romance stories in general, and I don't think it's limited to men. I don't care for it personally, and I wish it was less common, but people seem to be pretty alright with adultery in love stories generally.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
The reactions can differ greatly though, like on TV you can have most everybody loving relentless cheater Don Draper, but Walter White's wife cheating is loathed, etc, when she's done not nearly as much offences/sins/actual crimes

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Sure. I'm not saying that there aren't differences or that every story is the same.

But really just in general, if you're talking generally about capital-r Romantic stories where one of the parties is cheating on a spouse, that's really just not an uncommon thing.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I liked this movie the first couple of times I saw it. Then I suddenly woke up and thought "wtf? No." I think the total immersion in Elizabeth London sneaked it past my radar.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, my issue with it is less that it's overrated or tropey or didn't deserve the win...

It's that Shakespeare's life was so interesting and complex in reality that a more factually-based romantic drama about him would've been so much more satisfying that inventing a contrived Mary Sue twoo wuv for him.

Like Paltrow's character is so fake and so contrived and too good to be true.

And I just think about how much more satisfying it would've been to see a true Shakespearean love story instead of this made-up treacle.

What about a film about Shakespeare's same-sex longing for the "Fair Youth" and/or his relationship with the "Dark Lady" of his sonnets (who some people believe was either a WOC, a fallen woman and/or an accomplished Italian poet) "?

Even a film about his actual marriage to Anne Hathaway would be interesting. It could show an occasionally strained but still successful marriage complicated by the "shotgun wedding" nature of it, their age difference, and the devastating loss of their son Hamnett.

Any one of those would make a dang good movie concept--and one much more plausible than an obviously made-up character who we're supposed to believe inspired Juliet AND Viola. And presumably every other badass female character.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
YES to all of this.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, this was a super fun comedy - the love story was stupid, but it was pretty clear that Shakespeare had a lot of "true loves", even in the course of the movie. Gwyneth was the obvious weak link in the cast and definitely didn't deserve her Oscar (especially over Cate Blanchett), but the movie was vastly better than the turgid, overblown Saving Private Ryan. Also, a good, smart comedy is a piece of art.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
This is the most ridiculous reason to hate a movie with a multitude of flaws. OH NOES HE'S EVIL HE CHEATED WAAAAAAAAH. What a bitch you must be. No wonder nobody loves you, whiny cunt.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
0/10 lazy ass troll

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Lol ikr. Someone put a glass over it and throw it outside.

(Anonymous) 2017-11-23 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see how people could like the movie, and I don't give a crap either way about the Oscars, but as a personal history thing (my dad cheated on my mom) I just can't enjoy something where the "hero" is committing adultery.
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