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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-27 05:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #539 ]


⌈ Secret Post #539 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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109. TL;DR COMING YOUR WAY!

[identity profile] feenietime.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
109. My thoughts on yaoi, let me show you them? :D

This is from a rant I made on the subject a while ago and is going to be extremely opinionated and TL;DR. No, really.

No. Really. Don't say I didn't warn you.

In the past, I've made it pretty clear that I hate the top/bottom trend with a fiery passion. NOT because I don't think people have preferences, as I know most do. It's when those preferences are founded on whether a character is short, tall, has long hair, pretty eyes, or any number of ridiculous “masculine” or “feminine” traits... But before I continue, I want to preface this by stressing that this is only my opinion and I don't think it's wrong in the slightest for people to like this sort of thing. I'm simply irked that it establishes an accepted and expected perception of what a character does or does not like in bed based on whether or not they have a "dominant" or "submissive" personality, or worse, what they look like. What's even more distressing is that, from what I've seen, a lot of those ideas carry over to what people think of gay men in real life.

Again, this is all my opinion, but I have an irrational, pressing need to state exactly why I want to rip my hair out every time someone asks me, "lol you think [insert character name] tops/bottoms? newb"

I like realism. I do. And in reality, sexual preferences (of the "this is the position I like" variety, not the "this is what I identify as" kind) are determined by what feels good, not who's dominant or submissive. Yes, that's a kink. There are people who go out looking for someone to dominate them just as there are people who go out looking for someone to bend to their will, but that's something slightly different and also rarely has anything to do with their personality outside of the bedroom, let alone what they look like. Granted, a character's personality is going to have some affect on how they act during a sexual encounter, but I'd like to think it primarily portends to how likely they are to initiate affection, how far they're willing to go, what they're willing to try, etc, but when all is said and done and they're comfortable with their preferences, it has nothing to do with whether or not they like to take it up the ass. Again, that's something that's determined by what feels good.

AND THOSE, DEAR OP, ARE MY THOUGHTS ON YAOI.

Re: 109. TL;DR COMING YOUR WAY!

[identity profile] batty-gal.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed, and agreed with, every word of that TL;DR.

Re: 109. TL;DR COMING YOUR WAY!

[identity profile] feenietime.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, thanks. ♥ I used to be hesitant about posting that, but I've found I don't particularly care anymore. XD
maraich: (Kickass)

[personal profile] maraich 2008-06-27 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
LIE DOWN AND CLOSE YOUR EYES!
maraich: (Sexilicious)

[personal profile] maraich 2008-06-27 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'M GOING TO SHOW THESE PEOPLE WHAT IT MEANS TO TOP FROM THE BOTTOM.

Re: 109. TL;DR COMING YOUR WAY!

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
This goes for yuri and het too, although I almost got shit for pointing that out though once.

Re: 109. TL;DR COMING YOUR WAY!

[identity profile] feenietime.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I totally agree! In fact, my original rant was prefaced with, "If you want to get technical, this could apply to any romance genre, but since I'm more familiar with m/m slash, that's where the bias of this rant is going to lie."

Re: 109. TL;DR COMING YOUR WAY!

[identity profile] aliaras.livejournal.com 2008-06-28 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
This tl;dr made reading comments worth it. <3 and agreement for OP.

That said, I do think some relationships (more than the total d/s kink ones) have a kind of power dynamic where someone's more passive just to "hold on to" the other person, but I also don't think that's a very healthy kind of relationship.

It also annoys me that people want the more "feminine" man to bottom. Can he top once plz? Or just fewer stereotypes?