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As long it’s understandable, spelling and grammar doesn’t matter if it’s in casual spaces. Additionally, people who pride themselves in correcting strangers’ grammar deserve shit.

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even tho i teach grammar 4 a living

Is it a morally awful thing to use capslock chatspeak constantly? No, but it's not like tone and manner doesn't matter at all to the point or message you're trying to get across.

Pedants that correct every minor mistake are annoying. However, "it's totally okay to type like you're 12 *holds up sporK* when you're 50, how can anyone judge someone who does that, it shouldn't matter" is a definite disagree from me. I'm not gonna go correct them, but it's definitely gonna matter enough for me to stop talking to them forever

Everything you’re complaining about is tone, not grammar or spelling.

Grammar and spelling are a large part of tone

Capslock and *actions* were used in your post as example which have everything to do with tone and little to do with spelling and grammar.

Childlike speech patterns and slang use are made up of improper uses of grammar. The entire point of slang is it's improper grammar and usually improper spelling. That's why it's defined as slang in the first place. You can't just set them apart as two unrelated subjects. If someone is using one, they're using the other

We're clearly both on hills we'd die on though, so...

Agreed. I don't expect perfect grammar and punctuation all the time, but if you're constantly using incorrect grammar or spelling things wrong, then I'm going to think you're either lazy or you don't give a fuck, and in both cases those aren't traits I find appealing.

People who make grammatical mistakes are making a grammatical mistake. (And let's be blunt here, unless you have a speechwriter no one's casual speech conforms to the stylebook.)

Derailing a conversation by correcting grammar is a hostile speech act, and is a rhetorical mistake.

Related: You learn grammar before you get into school. What schools teach is style, not grammar.

Edited 2017-11-25 02:10 (UTC)

I don't disagree with your points, but end up still disagreeing with the idea that grammar and spelling "don't matter" at all.

People who make grammatical mistakes are making a grammatical mistake. That's not what the OP said though. They said "As long it’s understandable, spelling and grammar doesn’t matter if it’s in casual spaces"

I don't bother to correct people who get spelling wrong: you can see by my own comments there's plenty of casual use too. It's very easy to ignore "lazy" typing and spelling. But "lazy" isn't the only kind of "mistake" there is. For example, there's plenty of anti-intellectuals out there who knowingly type speak and chat wrong on purpose "because fuck you educated libruls I do what I wants" or too-cool-for-skool kids and the latest slang terms trying hard to be hip and it sure matters then because it speaks to the kind of person you're speaking to. Even lazy typing says you're lazy and that's totally acceptable to most people including me, but it does send that message.

Does it make the other side automatically win an argument? nope. But it does matter in some way

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