fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #3978 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3978 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.

__________________________________________________

02.

__________________________________________________

03.

__________________________________________________

04.

__________________________________________________

05.

__________________________________________________

06. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things]

__________________________________________________

07. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things]

__________________________________________________

08. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

[LastMan]

__________________________________________________

09. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment/assault]

__________________________________________________

10. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment/assault]

__________________________________________________

11. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment/assault]

__________________________________________________

12. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment/assault]

Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #569.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

It's easy to be mindlessly pro-vaxx if you've never been hurt by a vaccine. It's easy to take the party line and mock people who don't want their children hurt.

It's easy to be a fucking moron. Yes, vaccines have their place. They can be useful and good. So can fucking CPR. You don't give strong, adult-based CPR to every single baby the second it's born no matter its medical issues. Unless you want to kill people or give htem livelong issues.

Yes, I do think that comparison is apt and I wish people would stop drinkign the cool aid. You all believe anything that the media tells you if it involves a sad story about someone with a compromised immune system. Do some research. Listen to people who have been hurt.

Stop finding one or two people you can point and laugh at who are ignorant. You're part of the problem here.

There are legitimate points on both sides, but there are some real people who have been hurt by vaccines and there are real issues in what goes into some of htem and the way they're administered.

Except it's better for everyone to be vaccinated, even if it kills some babies or children, because the death and disability toll of not vaccinating everyone it's possible to vaccinate is so much higher.

I think parents who try to avoid vaccinating their kids should be sent to a lovely tropical island with heavy duty biosecurity protocols and infected with the diseases they refused to vaccinate their kids for. I know it's a horrible thing to say, but your kids are not more important or more deserving of life than anyone elses, and by refusing to vaccinate you are basically saying "fuck everyone else, I got mine."

If a kid is born with no immune system or low birth weight or something, then of course their vaccinations should be delayed or not administered at all, depending on what the problem is, and the call should be made by their pediatrician, not by parents who would rather have a dead kid or one who went blind from measles or some shit than an autistic one. If they're worried about allergic reactions, they can have their doctor do an allergen panel for their kid.

I was not vaccinnated when I was born because I was three months premature and had a laundry list of contraindications for awhile. If I'd been surrounded by unvaccinated people, I might've died. I have lost multiple relatives to cancer, but I would've lost them a lot sooner if people around them hadn't been vaccinated. As soon as I had health insurance as an adult, I went and got vaccinated for everything I'd missed as an immunocompromised kid, because I owed it to kids like me (and everyone else tbh) not to be a disease vector if I could help it.

"I was not vaccinnated when I was born because I was three months premature and had a laundry list of contraindications for awhile."

Different anon, here.

Is it alright if I ask what the contraindications were? In what circs do trained medical staff think it better to wait, or skip, vaccinations?

Also, three months premature is seriously not a picnic, so congrats for surviving.

AYRT—I couldn’t breathe on my own, I had hydrocephalus so severe my doctors were within an hour of putting in a shunt when they managed to bring the swelling down by other means, I needed daily blood transfusions and had blood drawn multiple times a day, I weighed 2lbs 10oz at birth and my weight dropped to below 2lbs after (apparently they threw little parties every time I gained an ounce, pft, if they could see me now), and I had jaundice. My baby pictures for the first couple months are horrifying tbh, and I cost the state $150,000 in 1980s money.

I was flown from the podunk town where I was born to the University of California San Francisco medical school right after I was born, which was nice of someone because without their care I’d have died. And without their rigorous blood testing protocol I might’ve gotten AIDS. There wasn’t one test for it back then, but they knew it was killing gay men so they tested their blood supply and questioned their donors very thoroughly.

Oh, and they thought I’d grow up to be a vegetable, but I’m glad I didn’t. I do seem to be an autistic of some stripe, though. Which is why I really should make a “not vaccinated, still autistic” tshirt. I did get some vaccinations just before I started kindergarten, but my mental issues were already showing up before then because hey, autism really does just coincidentally show up shortly after kids generally get the MMR vaccine around 2 or 3ish. (Although when I was a kid the big fuss was over the TDaP vaccine, which is the one I didn’t get until I was an adult.)

Anti-vaccination truthers, as a movement, are extraordinarily wrong and have done real, concrete harm to public health. That is true regardless of whether or not you think that there are issues with vaccination regimes. There are not "legitimate points" on the side of the people who think that vaccines cause autism. With all due respect, fuck the hell off with any kind of equivocating bullshit like that.

Autism can be on a person who,where ever take the vaccines or not.

I don't think we have grapple the meaning 'autism' seriously enough.

Also, this issue really, i mean really giving people with autism a bad rep.

if you've never been hurt by a vaccine

Unless you have one of a very small number of immune problems or allergies - both of which are detectable by a halfway competent doctor - neither have you.

drinkign the cool aid

The proper way to spell that is "getting a basic education".

anything that the media tells you

The proper way to spell that is "facts that have repeatedly been proven by independent, peer-reviewed scientific studies".

people who have been hurt.

The proper way to spell that is "people who are lying for profit, or because they want an easy explanation for why their child dared to not be the perfect baby they dreamed of".

There are legitimate points on both sides

No, there are legitimate points on one side, and a whole lot of lies on yours.

but there are some real people who have been hurt by vaccines

Yes, the immunodeficient or allergic covered in point one, who absolutely should not get vaccines - which is something everyone on the pro-science side of this "debate" agrees with. That's why we want your stupid ass to get them, so you can't kill someone who has the misfortune of having a non-functional immune system or an allergy to eggs.

there are real issues in what goes into some of htem

That's been disproven. Repeatedly. Get your facts from a scientific journal, not your fucking aromatherapist.

Infant CPR is different than adult CPR, and emergency procedures in the delivery room are designed for the delivery room. You're creating a strawman.

Yes, comparing an emergency treatment that will put you in the hospital even if successful with a prophylactic treatment where negative side effects are estimated at less than 1/100,000 really isn't reasonable.

[ SECRET POST #3978 ]

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on

Re: Hills you’ll die on