[ SECRET POST #3979 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3979 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Also? Guess who also needs money to buy food? The authors you're stealing from. Not sure how this didn't occur to you. Perhaps they're also suffering from depression and also on the breadline. But fuck them, right? It's all about you.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, they certainly don't care about their fans' situations - so yeah, fuck them.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you for fucking real? Are you seriously arguing that authors charging even just $.99 for their works = don't care about fans? Just... Wtf are you even trying to get at here? You are not making any sense.

[(Anonymous)]

Wtf.

[(Anonymous)]

Not buying your books is not "stealing". You're not losing anything because of piracy: presumably everyone who pirated your book wouldn't have bought it anyway, even if piracy wasn't an option. And if they read it legally via a library, or by borrowing it from a friend, they also wouldn't have brought any food to your table.

[(Anonymous)]

Libraries usually BUY the books they loan out in the first place. And if you're speaking individual sales, actually there are MANY people who would probably pony up $.99 for a book they were interested in if some pirate hadn't waved a free copy under their nose. It's very often simple opportunism. Whatever helps you sleep at night, though. I truly don't think the anons pedaling this view come out of this looking anything other than callous and self-absorbed.

[(Anonymous)]

A pirate also bought the book they uploaded. Same results.

How do you know that "many" people would buy this book, if the pirated version wans't available? Did you make a poll?

[(Anonymous)]

Um, how do YOU know that NO ONE would buy it? Obviously some people would. If it's easier to spend $.99 than not read the book, lots of people are going to pay. For most people, a dollar or two is not breaking the bank. The situation some people keep trying to push about people being so poor they have to choose between buying a book or buying food is going to be an aberration, not the norm. Most people pirate because it's easy - hey, why not save a couple of dollars when it's right here for the taking? But they don't NEED to.

[(Anonymous)]

It's even more easy to read another book for free, if they can't spare those $.99. They pirated this book in particular, because it was available to them. If the pirated copy wasn't available, they might've decided their $.99 is better spent on another book, or something else entirely.

[(Anonymous)]

Then that's the choice they make. But if they want that book, they have to break the bank on $.99. Just because I choose one item over another doesn't make one ok to steal.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but how many copies does a library buy? Probably just one, unless a book is a bestseller with a lot of people on the waiting list to read it, in which case they'll buy multiple copies. But for every ONE book they buy, potentially hundreds of people are reading it for free, and the author doesn't get any money from that.

[(Anonymous)]

for every ONE book they buy, potentially hundreds of people are reading it for free, and the author doesn't get any money from that.

Public Lending Right is a thing in many countries.

[(Anonymous)]

But not in mine. So "just go to the library" in my country is no different from "just pirate it".

[(Anonymous)]

You keep telling yourself that. You have the internet; you can buy the ebook. Oh wait, you're probably one of those mythical F!Sers literally deciding between books and starvation, right? There seem to be an awful lot of you.

[(Anonymous)]

The author is getting circulation numbers and statistics. If the book goes out enough, the library system might buy more copies. The circulation numbers are fed back to the publishers and the publishers use them in their decision making in author contracts.

Getting a book out from the library could get an author a higher advance, higher book run numbers, a bigger contract for books in the series. It may not be "Oh, the author got 25 cents from this book I took out on loan from the library." It's not that direct. It still helps authors get more money from publishers by proving to the publishers they are "a sure bet."

[(Anonymous)]

Torrenting sites also provide the number of downloads.

[(Anonymous)]

Publishers are not going to get stats from a bunch of torrenting sites.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, if you read the Maggie Steifvater tumblr post, you'll find this is a fallacy. It's not 2001 anymore. When the fans of Maggie couldn't find a "legit" pirated ebook copy of the book, they did this funny thing. They went out and bought it. She ran out of physical print books and her publishing had to print another run of them. Because they'd limited the first run of print books, due to the fact her second book didn't sell as well in e-book format. Because... ebook piracy.

IF a pirate can't find a legitimate copy of something and they want that something bad enough. THEY WILL BUY IT. This is mice nibbling at the edges of the cheese anymore. It's an epidemic.

[(Anonymous)]

No, they won't. There have been many books I've searched for a pirated copy of, and didn't find any. You know what I did? I went to a library for it instead.

[(Anonymous)]

And that's great, because you supported a community project and provided stats that will help the author. Pirating does none of that. It is an entirely selfish act.

[(Anonymous)]

Anything on a tumblr post is not worth reading.