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[The Big Family Cooking Showdown]

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[Michael Fassbender/Alicia Vikander]

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[Team Fourstar/Dragon Ball Z Abridged]

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[Nurarihyon no Mago]

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[Candice Swanepoel (Victoria's Secret)]

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(Stranger Things, season 2)

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I think you're kind of arguing against a straw man here, to be honest.

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean and I would really like people's opinions on this.

SA

If you mean no one would hold the opinion that creative works should be free, I've just seen a whole thread of people arguing exactly that, and I find it interesting. I'm wondering how many other people think the same.

Can you point me to more specific comments that you think are arguing that all creative works should be free?

I just took a quick glance at the thread from yesterday and I didn't see anything that I would interpret in that way. There's obviously a lot of subsidiary arguments about piracy but I think you're stating it more strongly than people really do.

I suppose you're right, no-one's definitively saying that people shouldn't charge, more like they shouldn't stop anyone accessing it for free. But these comments bring up the idea:

OP absolutely does not have to repay anybody. I'm sorry about your friend, but stop trying to guilt trip a stranger. If money is the only reason you write, then you're not doing it for the right reasons. It should be about giving people something to love - regardless of how they got their hands on it.

Sometimes, yes. YMMV, but I believe that it's more important to do good by sharing stories with the world irregardless of if they'll pay you for it. If people will, then great! Thank you! But that's a bonus, not a necessity, and certainly not something I would expect from everybody, in every situation. If I need money, there are always other lines of work.

I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, I'm just trying to take an interesting philosophical subject to its conclusion. The idea that art's first purpose is to bring joy, and earning a living from it is a secondary justification, is a very interesting idea.

I guess I just feel like those are the only comments really advancing that view, and it's not at all a representative view of the discussion, or of peoples' feelings generally.

The thing is that most people who are reasonable accept on some level that - even if you believe in principle that art's first purpose is creativity and joy - we live in a fundamentally capitalist world that constrains us and forces us to seek money to survive. So even if you believe that as a philosophical principle, most people don't take the strong position that actually-existing artists ought to act that way, because it's just a fundamentally unrealistic expectation.

Ok, I get that you think it wouldn't WORK. But do you think it's RIGHT?

I'm not sure it's useful, or even meaningfully possible, to talk about what kind of property rights would exist in a hypothetical world where we had been liberated from material necessity.

But I will say that I don't have a lot of time for the concept of the "purity" of creativity or anything like that.

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