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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-11-26 04:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3980 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3980 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Big Family Cooking Showdown]


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03.
[Michael Fassbender/Alicia Vikander]


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04.
[Team Fourstar/Dragon Ball Z Abridged]


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05.
[Nurarihyon no Mago]


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[Candice Swanepoel (Victoria's Secret)]


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(Stranger Things, season 2)


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[Christian Bale]















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Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Picture this:

A broke af woman who's been screwed over by life finds strength and empowerment through a fictional woman she discovers and deeply relates to. The show she watches isn't even on Netflix, isn't at her local library, and there's no way she could afford a DVD box set.

An LGBT youth from a small town with a shitty library and a worse bookstore discovers a wealth of books about "people like them" actually do exist - and some of them are even available for free. Which is awesome, because said youth has very little money. Anyone from ANY hardship and walk of life discovers something that gives them hope and joy, through fiction.

You're still saying that these people are evil for taking what scraps they can to get them through? It's alright to say "pay for it or go to a library" if you just want any old bit of entertainment, but for people in marginalized communities, sometimes there just AREN'T other feasible options.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Picture this -- your broke as fuck imaginary people who live near the only library in the country with no interlibrary loan system decide to shoplift the books and movies that they want from Barnes and Noble. That should be fine by you, right? After all, the only thing that makes them happy is stealing.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually pro-shoplifting, if the person needs it bad enough. Honestly, I think in most cases if you're smart enough to get away with it, you deserve the booty.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool. I’m glad you’re ok with getting store employees fired so you can have free stuff. Have you ever considered being treated for your sociopathy?

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever considered being treated for your psychopathic lack of empathy? But sure, that woman sneaking baby formula into her coat pockets TOTALLY doesn't deserve to be allowed to feed her child, right?

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a high functioning sociopath, thank you very much.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Getting off on thievery is called kleptomania, not sociopathy. Idiot.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Getting off on fucking over other people is sociopathy. But really, that's just semantics.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-28 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I bet no one has ever fucked you.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You can throw as much as a pity party as you like but no, nobody is entitled to free entertainment. No matter how marginalised. Of course they can illegally acquire that entertainment and no, they aren't "evil" for that, but pretending that it's anything but an illegal act that would get them rightfully punished if they got caught is plain ridiculous.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
No-one's calling anyone evil, ffs. You can have compassion for someone and still encourage a sense of decency and responsibility. You know what the opposite is? Enabling.

And how about you picture this. A disabled woman with depression and anxiety finds meaning and independence by utilising her creative skills to make a living. To feel like an independent, productive member of society and to find both joy and practicality in her creations is one of the only reasons she can get out of bed in the morning. Unfortunately, she's not successful or well known enough that she can take a hit of piracy without serious danger of her livelihood being in jeopardy.

See, I can make up a scenario that makes you look like a selfish asshole too. Except, did I mention? I know this woman. She's my sister in law. Gets a bit harder to dismiss authors as robots when you know exactly who you're screwing over, doesn't it?

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
There are other shows about other fictional women that are available on Netflix, or are in syndication.

There are other books about LGBT people that are legitimately available for free, or for very little money.

Your fictional people could partake of that legitimate free/low cost entertainment instead of stealing shit. It exists. It's available. If they have the resources to pirate shit, they have the resources to stream or download legitimate sources.

I'm gay, mentally ill, and poor as fuck. I still pay for my entertainment, or get it for free through sources the creators have agreed to that adds to their consumption numbers, because I actually want more fiction that makes me feel represented and empowered to be produced, and I actually realize that creators shouldn't be expected to work for free because I want their shit and I don't feel like paying for it.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-28 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
Get off your high horse. Some of us don't have the luxury of paying for jack shit except food and bills, because ALL of our money goes towards helping our recently widowed mother you know, not starve and freeze. While I skip meals myself, to cut costs. Excuse me if I pirate the odd show, for a bit of relief. But congrats, you're a "better gay person" than me. Do you want applause?

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-29 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Poor baby martyr, constantly conveniently ignoring the fact that there's loads of shit available for free because that might interfere with the excuses you're making for theft.