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⌈ Secret Post #3985 ⌋

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[American Vandal]

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[Supergirl]

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[American Vandal]

American Vandal is one of the best depictions of the American high school experience full stop

I'm to distracted by "Ball Hairs?" to comment further.

Watch the show! It's really good!

I work in a high school. Everything about that show is perfect and wonderful.

Oh, so this is like an actual show?
I saw a description while going through Netflix the other day and I thought it was a documentary :P
Going to give this a look once I get the chance! :D

It's a mockumentary.

it's a parody of true crime series like making a murderer except it's about a bunch of dicks that were spray painted on like 25 cars in a school parking lot. it's a great parody but it's also a pretty good story.

Awesome! I love a mockumentary!

"A REAL high school"? Look, I get what you're going for here, but I hate this phrasing. It feels like every city dwelling kid thinks EVERYONE lives in a super diverse metropolitan center. It's been less than ten years since I was in high school and my school had maybe two black kids and no asian kids, middle eastern kids or anyone other than white kids.

I'm all for diversity and I think it's a great thing, and of course it's worth addressing the REASONS that there might be mostly white people in a place, but I'm sick of people pretending that everywhere other than the east or west coasts doesn't exist.

are you serious with this right now

Most fictional high schools exist on the east and west coasts, don't they?

I hear you. Like I also totally get the person who mentioned that most shows/movies take place in bigger cities or on the coasts, but yeah my midwestern HS was definitely 90% white...

As a white kid who grew up in a rural area, my real high school was 98% Native American since I was on a reservation. I very much doubt that's a racial make-up I'll see in a high school on television any time soon.

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But we can dream. And there are shows/movies (or were, any way) with Native American MCs (played by actual NA actors!), but they are few and far in between.

As a person who is finally (to some extent, because even now, there are particular looks as to what my people look like, which ranges across the board - Hispanic, mixed race/afro Latina, etc.] getting proper/better than before representation in US media , I'm really hoping that Native American actors get more roles, better roles, shows! Movies, etc, just more and quality representation. there's no excuse for it, honestly .

And I'll agree with the of this thread that depending on where you grew up, th are isn't as much diversity. My elementary/ middle school had no white kids, high school had about 3 to 5 in each year (And most were first or second generation). I think I counted about 7 to 10 white kids in total. I was in a metropolitan area on the cvo as. I c would easily see a Midwestern town having a few black kids, maybe one or two hispanic/asian/middl e eastern kids. It depennds on how much influx of traffic a place has seen. Have there been immigrabts/emigrants? if not, I coul d easily see any population remain quite similarly for years. These days might be different but 10 years ago was a different story, depermnding on where you went (i.e my familky woul d readily move to Orlando,FL over Mobile, AL. If there ius asn established community in X, why would I move to Y, where I have no cultural ties, no support, etc. ?

All this to say that I get the OP of the thread. I wouldn't have expected a white kid in my middle school class anymore than they would have expected a Hispanic kid. That's just not who lived in my neighboorhood.And quite often, schools are zoned.

I was thinking this myself.

My high school was at least 95% white, probably more like 98% white. And the other three high schools in my home town (population 40 thousand) were the same way.

I now live in a major city and juuuust over 50% of the population is white, so I can only imagine the high schools here are a lot more diverse as well. And I mean, that's a great thing; I really like living in a very multi-ethnic city. But the whole "finally a realistic depiction of high school" thing just seems like an odd reaction.

The only thing about it that has merit is that teen shows these days seem to actually generally have some kind of racial diversity for the most part. So the idea that American Vandal is unique in that regard - specifically with regards to just casting non-white actors and actresses - maybe doesn't entirely hold up.

I think what American Vandal does do well, and this is maybe what OP is responding to, is that it depicts those people in a way that's actually fundamentally pretty realistic, and it has a reasonable amount of diversity in terms of class, background, behavior, etc in a way that a lot of shows don't necessarily. So it feels different compared to a lot of what I've seen, because they feel realistic and nuanced, and I think it makes the diversity more impactful.

What I disagree with in AYRT, I think, is - I don't think that any particular kind of school experience has any kind of normative value. But I think the kind of diversity that we're talking about here probably does represent a common experience in America, probably numerically more common than people who literally have 1 black kid in their school. And it's fundamentally good to represent that, and not just a result of fucking coastal elitism, I mean Christ, what is that.

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree. The whole "This is what a REAL high school looks like!" thing depends VERY much on where you live.

The "spray painting dicks on everything" thing, however, is every high school ever.

My Midwestern high school was way more diverse than my east coast university.

My Midwestern high school was mostly white, but still had signficant populations of black, Asian and Latino students. So the high school in American Vandal wasn't that far off, actually.

I don't watch the show so it doesn't matter to me.

What a pointless comment. Do you leave this comment on every secret for a fandom you're not in?

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(Anonymous) - 2017-12-02 20:23 (UTC) - Expand

lmao that show tho

But I agree. it is representative of the diverse populations in am American HS, esp. on the west coast (i.e. the alleged vandals best friends, the main cast. It's great).

I'm from New Zealand so I can't speak to the realism of the racial make-up of the cast, but this was one of the few shows I've seen set in a high school where the characters look (for the most part) and act like actual teenagers rather than awkwardly melodramatic 20-somethings.

The show is technically diverse but I wouldn't put it on a pedestal for it. The majority of the focus characters are white. That's not a knock, that's just how it is on the show. I would have loved to see one or two of the other characters be a minority but AV works as it is.

What I will praise it for, besides being entertaining and accurate, is how it shows the preschool-to-prison pipeline isn't restricted to the Black community. While it's especially damaging for us, it affects all communities that are at a disadvantage. White folks aren't immune.

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