[ SECRET POST #3991 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3991 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Fall]


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[Louisa May Alcott, Little Men]


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[Winona Ryder, Jennifer Connelly]


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[Marvel Comics]


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[Shetland]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 10 secrets from Secret Submission Post #571.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - this is not really the place for blind items ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[philstar22]

I like high body counts, I just wish more media would actually make it clear that those lives matter. I love Star Wars, but I will forever be bugged about that scene in ANH where Leia, who watched her own planet be destroyed, comforts Luke about the death of someone he barely knows.

[(Anonymous)]

And the deaths of his aunt and uncle, the destruction of his childhood home, the knowledge that he's on the Empire's shitlist, and the loss of the only tangible connection to his (supposedly) late father. But you know, details.

[philstar22]

All those things happened, yes. But in that moment he was mourning Obi-Wan. And not a single thought was given to the fact that Leia lost her parents and her entire planet. And had to watch it happen. And also, for that matter, had been tortured.

[(Anonymous)]

But... but... Luke's manpaiiiiiin!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, what had happened to her was objectively worse, but Leia wasn't the sort to visibly mourn - particularly in front of strangers. Luke on the other hand, who had *literally seconds ago* watched Ben die, is an openly emotional person. Seeing that he was mourning, Leia (always the kind of person to put her own feelings aside for the good of others) comforted him. What was she supposed to do, make it a feelings competition? How dare you feel sad about the death of that man you just watched die, what happened to me was so much worse?

[(Anonymous)]

You seem really eager to be outraged, but you've missed philstar22's point, which was not to criticize Leia for her actions, but to criticize the media in general for framing it in such a way that we have to come up with an elaborate explanation (like you just did) for why the emotional impact of an entire planet's destruction is given so little thought. It doesn't have to be a competition in order to acknowledge both types of loss and pain. Failure to do so is not the characters' fault, it's a flaw in the writing/directing.

[(Anonymous)]

My apologies if I seemed over aggressive; that wasn't the tone I was trying to convey. However, the post in question specifically refers to the characters actions. I love Star Wars, but I will forever be bugged about that scene in ANH where Leia, who watched her own planet be destroyed, comforts Luke about the death of someone he barely knows.

While I agree that the destruction of Alderaan and its massive death toll is egregiously brushed over in the original trilogy, I feel that in that scene it wasn't at all odd. Other than Artoo or Threepio, nobody else in that room has any connection to Leia or Alderaan, and Luke is focused on the personal tragedy that had just occurred in front of him.
Now, if Obi-Wan had survived I could easily see him (Obi-Wan) sharing a moment of sympathy and mutual grief with Leia, but as it was bringing up the planets destruction during the escape sequence wouldn't have really worked emotionally.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, rewatching that scene as an adult (and a more critical viewer) I was struck by how even a movie that lets a female character be awesome still stuck her in the role of comforter of manpain.

[(Anonymous)]

Um. How is being sad about the death of another person (a death which happened literally like two minutes ago in this scene) considered 'manpain'?

Its not like Luke threw himself into the fetal position and made it all about him and demanded that she dote on him. He was sitting down, looking sad, and she put a blanket on him because she saw that he was sad. How dare he have facial expressions and feel feelings.

[(Anonymous)]

I like high body counts, I just wish more media would actually make it clear that those lives matter.

THIS. Whenever I find a film or tv show where the narrative actually shows you the deaths of non-major character as though they actually matter, it always makes me respect the story and like it more.