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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-07 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3991 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3991 ⌋

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[The Fall]


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[Louisa May Alcott, Little Men]


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[Winona Ryder, Jennifer Connelly]


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[Marvel Comics]


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[Shetland]


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(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Behavior doesn't have to be illegal to get called out, though. Being creepy and stalking women is calloyt worthy, IMO.
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[personal profile] belladonna_took 2017-12-08 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
It does have to be illegal though? Their whole job is to uphold the law. If you're an on-duty cop you really can't go around just calling people creeps/rapists - intimidating or harassing someone when you're an armed police officer is seriously not okay or legal, it's an abuse of power. You can caution or give warning without an official complaint, but it's for public nuisance/antisocial behaviour, not stalking/harassment.

Anon above me has said that on the show one of the women has a restraining order and the other was murdered. In that situation there's possibly more to be done, but if it was just the photos, then no.

Cops have very little power to intervene in stalking cases until things get very very ugly. I don't disagree that the guy needs a good talking to and a swift kick in the balls, but reality is that depressingly little can be done by law enforcement at the "admiring from a distance" stage.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but... what now? Calling someone out on their behavior isn't some official police action that requires an established procedure, nor does it necessarily involve calling someone a creep or a rapist. It can be as simple as pointing out that this behavior is not acceptable and looks very, very bad, particularly when you're talking to someone who is a legit suspect in a murder. Nobody said anything about "a good talking to and a swift kick in the balls" except you.
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[personal profile] belladonna_took 2017-12-08 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'd call what you're talking about "speaking to". Speaking to and calling out have different meanings to me. Speaking to someone would be polite and done out of concern - which would be fine. Calling someone out on their behaviour wouldn't be as polite. You call someone out on their bullshit. It's not something that's appropriate in that situation, IMO.

Might just be one of those weird region-specific sayings that have different meanings in different places?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt - Wait, you think they should be *polite* about criminal stalking and harassment? What fucking planet do you come from?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The one where Police officers act like professionals, not vigilantes?
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[personal profile] belladonna_took 2017-12-08 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. I don't think it's within the bounds of their job to show contempt for criminals. It's unprofessional and they're going to meet a lot of them and be involved in some very tense and upsetting situations. I'd argue it's pretty important for any cop to be able to keep a cool head and be able to engage in a professional and appropriate dialogue with any member of the public, no matter what behaviour they're displaying.

I've met some very professional cops and some very unprofessional ones, and I know which kind make me feel safer.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-08 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying. Cops have to toe the line when it comes to how they use their authority and how they act when they're in uniform. It's much more restrictive than an average any man can act in a situation. In an ideal world its to prevent abuse of power but I'm sure a lot of times it means they have to muzzle their personal opinions/reactions/judgements on situations even when clearly if they were off hours they'd be able to be more free about how they express it. In a very, very small way its the same way anyone in retail or food or customer service has to guideline how they react to people when they're on the job.
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[personal profile] belladonna_took 2017-12-08 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I was trying to say, and you explained it a lot better than I could.

It's got to be really difficult to see a situation like that and have to keep their interactions professional, but I think it's a pretty important part of their job.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-12-08 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just on the second episode, but at least half of the scenes are "small town cop tells other people what to do in order to keep the peace." Including arresting a guy on a weak drunk and disorderly so he doesn't have an encounter with his wife's lover, and calling out a professor for sleeping with students.
Edited 2017-12-08 14:54 (UTC)