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First, word and amen.

Second, unfortunately, you're fighting an uphill battle that you're never going to win. For some reason that I still don't understand, the ONE creepy, sick and absolutely abhorrent sexual sickness that everyone in the world has to defend in comic book form is pedophilia, because every single time that one mentions 'hey guys, that's sort of child porn' about shota or chan or whatever the cutesy name they use, you get a hundred or so replies telling you 'but it's NOT REAL. Can't you differentiate between reality and fiction?' (Ironically, those same defenders usually get up on arms about RPS... because writing fictional sexual stories about adults is somewhat worse more and reprehensible than writing and drawing what at the end is nothing more than kiddie porn)

'But real children aren't being victimized, so it's ok', they say. Never mind that it's becoming a trend, never mind that even shows that are targeted for young audiences end up having disturbing fan service and skewed generation gaps that in real life are statutory rape situations at best and every parent nightmare at worst (Check Card Captor Sakura, for instance. Sure, it's cute as hell, and sure, the main couple it's nice, and it's not even near the realms of Kodomo no Jinkan... But there's still a thirteen year old girl getting engaged to a 30 something and presented as a 'good' and 'cute' and 'romantic' thing in the background, and no one seems to mind that)

But anyway, I'm so glad that there are still people in fandom that get that no matter how much we can get behind the 'not real' label (I dislike incest, and rape, and a bunch of other kinky stuff on fandom, but avoiding them is as easy as not clicking the links and as long as it's consenting adults, not a problem.), THIS is the one trend that shouldn't be allowed to grow.

Oh my goodness, thank you!

I was getting really scared, especially since there's such a bizarre trend toward favoring this uncomfortable underaged trend in anime. I mean, Jesus, I've been to too many message boards and whatever that actually have to sit down and make a rule about it, when this is the kind of thing that really goes without saying.

I totally agree with you-- there are lots of things that still gross me out, but none of them get me nearly as upset as animated kiddie porn, and I think that's because there isn't air around other fetishes that makes the industry think it's okay to slip them into totally unrelated shows. There's a loli/shouta epidemic going on right now, and it's just outright troubling. I mean, it's kind of ironic that anime USED to be touted as "those porn cartoons," when most of the older shows are straight-up benign compared to the panty shots they're slipping into shows meant for preteen girls.

Oh my god, I sound so old saying that.

Last week I got told that there was no need to slap a shota warning on a post that included a ten or so looking boy hugging a huge penis, and that same boy later molesting a twenty something (that at the time was on a comma). I said that I wasn't saying that they shouldn't post it, I'm not a mod, and I understood that everything could be posted, but was it that taxing to put a written warning so those who don't like that sort of stuff could avoid it, thanks. The answer was, more or less 'but they're not really having sex, and it's cute, so I don't have to label it'.

When it gets to the point where you have to apologize for not liking kiddie porn, and you have to use cute names to hide it, then you know that there's a problem.

I only heard about KnJ because of the huge outrage that was created because it was pulled out of publication for the states (And how many levels of wrong are there? People were complaining *because* it wasn't going to be published, and shooting down the ones who were saying 'it's not the kind of material we, as otaku, should want in mainstream shelves if nothing else for our own image, damn it')

So yeah, we've got to support each other when we find more fans that stand up and say 'wait. We're normalizing this stuff. Is that really a good idea?' right?

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