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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-09 03:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #3993 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Trans ppl exist tho

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
No one said they didn't.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
but if a woman has a penis, that is very unattractive/off putting for women who are 100% about the vag. and there's nothing wrong with that.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
NA

Yes, but if a woman has a penis, the woman who is 100% about the vag is not going to know about that (under most circumstances) from the get-go, so it's incorrect to suggest that genitals rather than (perceived) gender are what determines whether the vast majority of someones can be attracted to someone else.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
a woman can be attracted to a woman, find out she has a penis, and have the attraction shrivel (ha) up. it's the way it goes sometimes when you are 100% about vag.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Perceived gender is nothing more than you imagining what the genitals might look like. You're not magically attracted to a flat chest, just because a trans woman wore a push-up bra that fooled you into thinking there were breasts under there.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
This. Someone can respect your gender identity and still not be sexually attracted to you. Most people don't want to have sex with, like, 90% of the people they meet in a given day. That doesn't change the gender or sexuality of anyone involved.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is part of the reason why I don't know how to relate to this sort of thing. On Tumblr (I know, but) there's always so much commotion over how transphobic it is to be attracted to someone for their genitalia over their gender identity, and its' just ... perplexing to read, as a bi person. I guess there must be different subsets of people who are attracted to others physically vs. attracted to someone for their actual gender, but... IDK, dude. IDK.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
SA

I should mention that i don't agree with the people saying it's transphobic, because I don't think anyone can control or change who they're attracted to. They just are, or whatever.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
DA

If someone is attracted only to, for example, women, and only interested in having sex with women with vaginas, that's fine and not even worthy of commentary. If someone is interested in only people with vaginas, whether they be cis women or trans men, and describes themselves as a "lesbian" (if they're a women) or "straight" (if they're a man), they are explicitly disrespecting the gender identity of the people they're interested in. If someone says "I'm not attracted to trans women/men", that person is saying that they are capable of discerning whether a particular person is transgender or not immediately, which is a) incorrect and b) transphobic because it implies that all transgender people look a certain way.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
so i identify as a lesbian and i'm only interested in having sex with people who identify as women who also have vaginas. that makes me transphobic?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

...That was literally nowhere in my comment.

When I say that "I'm not attracted to trans men/women" is transphobic, I don't mean that only wanting sex and relationships with e.g. women with vaginas is transphobic, I mean that the specific phrasing "I'm not attracted to..." carries with it transphobic implications, unless you only begin being attracted to people once you've determined whether or not they are in fact cis or trans, in which case go ahead.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
oh ok. i wasn't to be offended/start something, i just didn't understand what you were saying. thanks for the clarification.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
So, you're basically saying that because 10% of the 1% of the population is transgender with no interest in surgery, that means lesbianism has nothing to do with people with vaginas being attracted to people with vaginas.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-10 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.