[ SECRET POST #3994 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3994 ⌋

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Comments

[dahli]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember they where both doing it for selfish reasons. Tony wanted more control because he didn't want to keep fucking up with people lives like he did pre-IM1 and Steve wanted to save Bucky who did some horrible shit due to mind control. Of course there's more stuff to the story but those two things are the ones that stuck with me the most regarding them.

[takaraikarin]

I agree, tbh

And, as I care very little of SteveBucky, it made for a not very exciting watch, really.

[(Anonymous)]

SAME. Meh. The love MCU fandom has for Bucky Barnes always baffles me; he's a cipher -- at best.

(Can't speak to the comics, so the Marvel comics fans wandering over...sure, if you say he's interesting SOMEWHERE i guess i will take you word for it.)

[takaraikarin]

Honestly, I can only assume Bucky fans are comic fans, because they're fanatical and nothing in the movies warrants that when it comes to him.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT - Nah, Bucky is a Darcy. He's a shaky template that fans can turn into whoever they want for fantasies.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds accurate af

[(Anonymous)]

Shit on a character if you must, but leave the fans alone.

Also, not everyone who's a fan has read the comics. People like what they like for various reasons; just because you don't agree doesn't make them wrong.

[takaraikarin]

I'm not really shitting on anybody though, nonny, unless it's the writing in the movie, I guess. It's just a rather bland character to amass a significant following, and I figured that's because they're fans who know better of the character (due to additional canon from comics -- and 'assuming they've read or haven't read the comics' isn't a dig either).

[(Anonymous)]

different anon but

I think a lot of people identify with bucky because he wants to be a good person, he's done bad things, he's suffered and had his agency compromised

it's hard to identify with steve even if you like him, because it's hard to be that good and that determined all the time, yknow? so a lot of people invest emotionally in bucky instead

you're right that he's pretty secondary screentime wise, so there isn't a whole lot of unique there there, but he's well constructed for a certain kind of attachment/projection/sympathy that lets people fill him in with their own imagination,

other anon called him a cipher and I do think there's more to him than that, but it's also definitely a factor

I'm pretty sure there aren't as many people reading all of marvel comics as there are movie bucky fans, tho

[type_wild]

FWIW, I agree completely. I only bothered checking out the MCU after Thor: Ragnarok, and I seriously do not get how I, as a fandom outsider, would know that Bucky existed... but not Hawkeye, Black Widow, Falcon, or that this was where Hulk and Spiderman belonged. Storywise, Bucky serves as well as motivation for Steve's life choices as anything would. But as a person, he's... pretty non-descript, beyond the basics of "Steve's BFF who used to be brainwashed and evil". Like you, I've been assuming that the fanbase comes from the comics, not the films.

[(Anonymous)]

No, you're pretty much right. I think the original intent was to have the "right" side somewhere between Tony's "Civil liberties? What that?" stance and Steve's "Rule of law? Not on my watch!" one. Unfortunately, to do that successfully requires a lot more nuance than the writers are capable of.

[(Anonymous)]

No, Bucky wasn't even in the equation until after the Accords were introduced and (presumably) signed by Tony.