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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-13 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3997 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3997 ⌋

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[Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2]


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[Neil Gaiman, Good Omens]


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[Tonya Harding, Nancy Kerrigan / I, Tonya]


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[personal profile] morieris 2017-12-13 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of get it? Another evil empire with the names and logo changed, big deal.

I'd rather have a Force villain (like, strictly Force, not like Vader being nearly the head of the Empire) be prominent in one of the new trilogies.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-14 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Pair that with the lazy as fuck Nazi parallels and it gets even worse.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-14 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I go in circles on this. OTOH, I agree. The thing that bothers me the most about the new movies (especially Rogue One) is the loss of the hard good/evil dynamic. I don't go to SW for grey morality. I have other media for that. And part of the good/evil dynamic is an unequivocal win for the good guys.

OTOH, I think it's paralleling real life in a way. You thought you defeated the bad guy and were moving forward but you became complacent and now they're back again. You have to really root it out and keep at it or it comes back. Which is depressing but true. It's nice to see media addressing that (and hopefully giving the message that you can still win in the end - crossing fingers for Ep 9).

Shallowly, I like that they can use modern CGI for battles with the old-type tech like AT-ATs and Star Destroyers, so I'll take it as a win overall.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-14 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with the poster above me, but I also think that
a) there's always going to be a new villain popping up
a.1) for plot reasons
a.2) there is always a contrarian force to anything. Even the Force itself can be used, manipulated in ways that are for the Light/Dark
b) it would be interesting to see the villains perspective -- various villains. Snoke wants power. Do any of the villains actually believe what they're doing is right? I'd like to see that

I'm not surprised. And sure it feels kinda cheap, but the "Next Big Bad" is always around the corner. Each generation has to fight their own battle.
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[personal profile] analise 2017-12-14 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure Hux, at the very least, is a True Believer.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-14 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I definitely get that vibe from Hux, but -- and maybe I'm imagining this and need to rewatch TFA -- he also wants power/sometimes appears distrustful of the Force users/does he ever doubt very regime he is a part of? I'm not deluded enough to think he'd turn tail just because he "saw the light", but it'd be interesting if there was a momentary lapse of judgement on his part. Or maybe I've just been reading too much fic, lol.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2017-12-14 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Considering what is apparently going down in TLJ...TFA was a flash in the pan. And I agree.

B/
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2017-12-14 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
This is less an issue with Star Wars than with Hero’s Journey fantasy in general. One of the big ideas embedded in the Hero’s Journey is the cycle in which each new generation produces a hero to fight the looming evil. Put it all together, and you’ve got an endless cycle of heroes suffering and dying to stave off an enemy that will never be defeated. It’s enough to make you want to see evil win just so there’ll be some kind of change in the pattern. (More recent writers like Brad Bird and Joss Whedon have started lampshading this. “I feel like the maid! I just cleaned up this mess, can we keep it clean for - for ten minutes?”)