[ SECRET POST #4003 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4003 ⌋

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Comments

Re: REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

[(Anonymous)]

Sure it did. Not as much as now, to be sure, but it's not hard to think of people using political and moral arguments about Harry/Ginny versus Harry/Hermione (for instance).

So to me, it's not like people had some moral compunction about not doing so - it's just that the environment was generally less hyper-partisan than it has become. And you can argue with me about this if you want, but I don't think the increased politicization of everything is the fault of SJWs. it's a high-level trend in culture and society.

I mean, I think that ultimately, using a critique of SJWs as an argument for why Reylo is good is just as much a politicization of shipping, if you think about it. It's a general thing.

Re: REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

[(Anonymous)]

I'm loathe to say it, but I do think some of it involves generational attitudes about moralizing. I mean, it used to be considered a pretty lame thing to do, and recently it seems like a rite of passage for popularity.

But yes, there have always been ship wars and self-righteous people and people using morality as a weapon against ships and characters they don't like.

Re: REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

[(Anonymous)]

I'm generally really skeptical of generational arguments, especially when they're made from the outside looking in, and especially when other explanations are ready at hand. So, this particular example is no exception.

Re: REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

[(Anonymous)]

OK, but world views do change on a macro level over the years. It's something that happens.

Re: REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

[(Anonymous)]

sure, but it should take very strong evidence for us to believe that. it's an idea that we should be skeptical of, because it's the kind of idea that is very easy and very satisfying and very easy to over-fit, and because it's an extremely large claim - a claim about the general tendencies of extremely large groups of people.

Re: REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

[(Anonymous)]

Give it ten years, and you might feel differently.

Re: REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

[(Anonymous)]

I might, yes. That doesn't really conflict with anything I'm saying. In 10 years, we'll have a lot more evidence to go on.