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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-19 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #4003 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4003 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'm confused about the battle lines here. I personally haven't seen the "let us have our fucked up ship" vs the "all ships MUST be pure and happy!" battle, but I have seen the "Kylo is her true love and cares so much for her!" vs "You do realize he legit tortured her and killed several people right?" battle. But the that's just my experience.

I feel like a lot of nuance has been lost in all villain fandoms. On one side, it's assumed that if you dislike a villain or a villain ship, you can't handle anything that's not happy sunshine rainbows and police others, and on the other side, it's assumed that if you like a villain, you must excuse or ignore absolutely every single bad thing they've ever done, when in reality there's a whole world of options between those two. As someone who loves villains/villain-hero dynamics as much as I love seeing them fall and lose everything because they're awful, it's all very frustrating.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
it's assumed that if you dislike a villain or a villain ship, you can't handle anything that's not happy sunshine rainbows and police others

That's assumed because it's likely to be true. Not for people who happen to dislike a villain without making a fuss about it, but if someone feels the need to write meta about how they hate Villain McBadguy because he's a bad person who does bad things and that's bad, and all ships with him in them are unhealthy and bad, I assume by default that they're a member of the sunshine-only fandom morals police. And it usually turns out I'm right.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. Someone who dislikes villains will assume YOU are the type who forgives or ignores everything or claims it's true love, and assume that they are equally correct.

And funnily enough, a ship can be unhealthy and bad AND hot as hell. We can acknowledge both. On both sides. And yet I see this very very rarely.