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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-19 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #4003 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4003 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
shouldn't this have come with a spoiler warning?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
no

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
The entire community comes with a spoiler warning and expecting people you don't even know not to spoil the second best selling franchise of all time is just entitled.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Spoiler warnings are basically a nice thing that submitters are allowed to do if they want to, not an actual rule

It probably should have a spoiler warning, but at least it's easy enough to notice that it's a TLJ secret and scroll on by

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really see how it spoils anything. It basically says, "two characters from the same franchise interact" .... shocker?
People can ship next to nothing. I guess the picture implies their hands may touch at some point in the film. But as spoilers go.. that's.. not a big deal.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Have you considered carrying a spoilsport warning?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
What's the beef with Reylo? I mean didn't Star Wars had that incest thing going on, so how's it worse than that?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
He's a Space Nazi.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's a ship war. This is how ship wars mostly work, especially in big fandoms.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Combination of ship war between Finnrey and Reylo, and the fact that it's in vogue to hate hero/villain ships and only support "pure" cinnamon roll ships.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing really. It's no different than your average hero x villain type of ship except it involves a male and female. Despite Rey being a really powerful jedi and she's treated as if she if fighting on equal ground with the villain somehow makes her an abuse victim. I know it's cliche to say but if you had this same dynamic between two male characters it wouldn't be nearly as hated.

I'd say it's less about ships like Reylo genuinely bothering them and more like they want to join the bandwagon to make it seem like they are on the "right side" as far as tumblr standards go. People who try to act like all ships have to be pure and have zero conflict are so obnoxious when they try to force others to conform to their comfort zone.

Like... isn't Thor x Loki also a popular ship? I haven't seen them receive half the amount of shit Reylo got despite being arguable worst since they grew up as brothers whereas Rey and Kylo weren't in any sort of relationship to begin with.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Make a side blog for all your Reylo squeeing.

And welcome to the fandom! We are still in a state of excited disbelief that TLJ is a real movie that happened.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't really care for this ship and probably would have forgotten about it if it weren't for the insanely loud and prechy anti-reylo crowd.

I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what happened but I'm genuinly glad the Reylo fans are happy about it because those anti's were so fucking obnoxious and over dramatic about it. It's always good to see anti-shippers get butthurt after bringing it on themselves.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I ship Reylo because they are the only two characters that actually have any chemistry together. So if there is more Reylo goodness in TLJ, great to hear.

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REGARDING THE SECRET...since everybody's griping about the damn pic...

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
You can thank social justice warriors for fucking up pairings. Oooh if you ship incest you must be okay with incest irl! Ooh, if you write a pedophile pairing, you're an IRL pedo and should die! Oooh, if you think rape is hot in fiction you must be a rapist IRL.

SJWs ruin everything. Even a tea party story will offend them if everybody is white, heterosexual, neurotypical and cisgender.

SJWs are a plague.

you might be overreacting a bit there

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Why do you blacklist if you're really that "ship and let ship" yourself? Kettle, meet pot.

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[personal profile] a_potato 2017-12-20 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure fandom in general was ever "ship and let ship," honestly. There's always been pockets of people who approached things that way, but there's also always been the ship warring type.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
As soon as, ahem, events played out with those two characters, I told my husband, "And a thousand more ship wars were born!"
nightscale: Starbolt (DC: Starfire)

[personal profile] nightscale 2017-12-20 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I remain completely neutral to it, mostly because I find it hard to like Kylo or take him seriously all that much, but you do you OP.

(If anything I came out shipping Finn/Poe a lot more).

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the dark side, baby. Rewatch TFA with your ship goggles on and you will think of a dozen scenarios anytime they're together. Esp. when she's captured, and the fight scene at the end between them? Oh yes.

haven't seen TLJ yet, but this is an exciting development, despite avoiding spoilers.

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[personal profile] killertofuuu 2017-12-20 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck 'em, OP. Ship what you ship. No harm, no foul.

If they can't handle a difference of opinion then they're not worth keeping around.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-20 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'm confused about the battle lines here. I personally haven't seen the "let us have our fucked up ship" vs the "all ships MUST be pure and happy!" battle, but I have seen the "Kylo is her true love and cares so much for her!" vs "You do realize he legit tortured her and killed several people right?" battle. But the that's just my experience.

I feel like a lot of nuance has been lost in all villain fandoms. On one side, it's assumed that if you dislike a villain or a villain ship, you can't handle anything that's not happy sunshine rainbows and police others, and on the other side, it's assumed that if you like a villain, you must excuse or ignore absolutely every single bad thing they've ever done, when in reality there's a whole world of options between those two. As someone who loves villains/villain-hero dynamics as much as I love seeing them fall and lose everything because they're awful, it's all very frustrating.

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